Name: Bazil
E-Mail: bazair2air@pcisys.net
Subject: Non BASE Related
Body of Message:
This has nothing to do with BASE. However, knowing that most
of you are technically knowledgeable I felt this may
be of interest. It is an information page showing the
difference between DVD and DIXV.
DIVX - JUST ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO INVADE YOUR PRIVACY
AND RIP YOU OFF.
See the information page at:
wysiwyg://3/http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Studio/8884/divx.htm
Or use the the link
Link: DIVX Information Page
Added on Date: 05:57:20 1/01/99
Name: Eric Rhyde
E-Mail:
Subject: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
There are NO friendly rangers just like the cops thay
smile a thay take you to jail for jumping off a rock ask
Bill Legg. If you think there the good guys go to Yosamite with a BASE jumping bumper sticker and see what happens!
Added on Date: 11:39:02 1/01/99
Name: flyboy
E-Mail: basejmpr@email.com
Subject: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
: There are NO friendly rangers just like the cops thay
: smile a thay take you to jail for jumping off a rock ask
: Bill Legg. If you think there the good guys go to Yosamite with a BASE jumping bumper sticker and see what happens!
Trying to pull Base jumpers together to go against all Park Rangers goes against what the CJAA and IPBC are trying to do. We are trying to get along with the authorities and get rid of the Bad Boy ( and yes you too girls ) image.
Go to an illegal site and get busted,,, that is the chance you take. I have been busted as well as most jumpers with more than 1 or 2 hundred Base jumps. Just [ @*!?%# ] it up and go on. You shouldn't persecute Rangers for doing their jobs, just imagine if the NPS let every wannabe Base jumper jump off everything in sight. I'll tell you this, there would be alot of dead jumpers and there would be alot of expensive rescue efforts going on. Who would pay for that? There has to be some kind of laws, otherwise....
What if there were no police? There would be alot of people getting shot, robbed, killed. etc...
Society cannot rule itself, there has to be a law to keep us dumbasses in check.
personally I thank God for police and Park Rangers. What would life in the U.S. be like without them?
I'm personally against you.
Flyboy
Added on Date: 14:12:31 1/01/99
Name: Harry
E-Mail: imbasen@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jumper scorned
Body of Message:
: : : Get a life?
: : : Get a brane you moron there all on the same teem
: : Let's see here, 3 misspellings in one sentence, gross generalizations, you should be dead already.
: : 386
: To stupid to get the point ranger?
Ranger??? 386 did you go and get hired on by the NPS? ha ha
Harry
Added on Date: 14:28:07 1/01/99
Name: Impactor
E-Mail: joel.gerardin@student.ulg.ac.be
Subject: Twist lines suk...
Body of Message:
I recently broke my feet and legs while impacting a cliff in Switzerland because of twist lines and 180 off heading.
This was my 99th BASE, a 5 sec. delay jump with a Fox 225. I tried to control the canopy with the rear risers, but
this was impossible because of the twists. I had no time to untwist, but just enough to face the wall and prepare for
the impact as if I was going to land with a round parachute: legs ahead, knees unlocked, stomach and guts melting
in my throat... If you have ever experienced twist lines while cliff/building jumping, I would really appreciate
any information about how you dealed with it. Did you touch the wall? Did you untwist? Did you control the
canopy? Did you climb over the twists? ...Thank you for your help. BASE!
Added on Date: 15:01:02 1/01/99
Name: Impactor
E-Mail: joel.gerardin@student.ulg.ac.be
Subject: Re: Re: --> Exit points Data Base<--
Body of Message:
: LET'S BE SERIOUS FOLKS - DO YOU REALLY THINK WE WILL ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE BASE JUMPERS AND ACTUALLY CALL THE LOCAL JUMPER ON YOUR LIST IF WE HAVE A BIG DREAM UP DATABASE OF SITES - HELL NO, IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. Maybe the basers in Europe are all real cool, don't EVER get high or drunk, and NEVER break the law.
Of course some European basers are not cool at all!
Since 1989, a few paralpinists (as they call themselve) spent a lot of time to discover more than 120 incredible spots.
If they don't want to share these with any wannabee, there must be a reason!
They know the wannabees!
And I'm SURE that wonderfull spots will be lost if anyone jump there, for example because you have to ask the farmers to land on their fields... in Swiss-German language! And if you goes over, remember they have GUNS, and they sometimes consider they ARE the POLICE...
Dear Francois,
Why do you think Claude, Franck, Erich and few others wrote the "Topo guide" and only gave it to very few serious Basers? Do you really think they are all egoists???
Did they give it to you?
Your idea is very generous, but trust me, IT WILL GO WRONG.
Don't you see what happens in Magland? Don't you know what the locals think about BASE jumping when they see "these-mad-BASE-jumpers" landing on their roof or crashing in the street? Do you want the same to happen in Vercors, Grenoble or Interlacken
This sport is already almost illegal in some place because it's risky. Do you want to see it becoming prohibited because of one or two "gros cons"??
Here in Belgium, we lost our 4 best spots in 2 month because everybody knew the spots and stupid people did stupid things.!
And I'm afraid 1999 is gonna be worst...
BASE.
Added on Date: 16:26:52 1/01/99
Name: Mick Knutson
E-Mail: mknutson@websolution.com
Subject: Re: Twist lines suk...
Body of Message:
Can you tell us what your gear was (pilot chute, bridle, slider, rubber band stow at tail pocket, tail gate?...) and how you packed it?
What were the conditions like? wind, night/day, etc...
This would help your efforts!
Very sorry to hear about your accident! Get well soon!
Hope I can meet you this summer when I come to Switzerland.
Added on Date: 18:04:34 1/01/99
Name: Frank
E-Mail: BASEjumpr@AOL.com
Subject: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
: There are NO friendly rangers just like the cops [thay]
: smile [a thay] take you to jail for jumping off a rock ask
: Bill Legg. If you think there the good guys go to [Yosamite] with a BASE jumping bumper sticker and see what happens!
You really need a spell checker. You're getting better though. This time 3 misspellings in MORE than 1 sentence (not counting the 3 in the title). I guess I'm agen YOU also, but I'm for the BASE community. I'm not sure who you're for though.
Added on Date: 19:16:50 1/01/99
Name: Douva
E-Mail: lewdouva@aol.com
Subject: Has it ever been tried?
Body of Message:
Being pissed that I couldn't be skydiving on New Year's Eve Day (I had my heart set on that midnight jump), I got together a couple of friends and we used my canopy to do some para-ascending (parasailing) behind my truck. At one point we hooked together three 200' climbing ropes, and I got up about 400'. Now, here's my question. Has anyone ever tried para-ascending to this height (or higher or lower), cutting away, and going into freefall? Would this still bring the same legal repercussions as BASE jumping, or might it actually be "legal," since you're not jumping OFF of anything. I don't know what the FAA or USPA could say because you're not jumping OUT of anything, either. I don't know, I'm not all that experienced, but it seemed like a cool idea. Has anyone ever done this?
--Douva
B-21806
Added on Date: 19:40:13 1/01/99
Name: Douva
E-Mail: lewdouva@aol.com
Subject: Has it ever been tried?
Body of Message:
Being pissed that I couldn't be skydiving on New Year's Eve Day (I had my heart set on that midnight jump), I got together a couple of friends and we used my canopy to do some para-ascending (parasailing) behind my truck. At one point we hooked together three 200' climbing ropes, and I got up about 400'. Now, here's my question. Has anyone ever tried para-ascending to this height (or higher or lower), cutting away, and going into freefall? Would this still bring the same legal repercussions as BASE jumping, or might it actually be "legal," since you're not jumping OFF of anything. I don't know what the FAA or USPA could say because you're not jumping OUT of anything, either. I don't know, I'm not all that experienced, but it seemed like a cool idea. Has anyone ever done this?
--Douva
B-21806
Added on Date: 19:40:48 1/01/99
Name: Douva
E-Mail: lewdouva@aol.com
Subject: Has it ever been tried?
Body of Message:
Being pissed that I couldn't be skydiving on New Year's Eve Day (I had my heart set on that midnight jump), I got together a couple of friends and we used my canopy to do some para-ascending (parasailing) behind my truck. At one point we hooked together three 200' climbing ropes, and I got up about 400'. Now, here's my question. Has anyone ever tried para-ascending to this height (or higher or lower), cutting away, and going into freefall? Would this still bring the same legal repercussions as BASE jumping, or might it actually be "legal," since you're not jumping OFF of anything. I don't know what the FAA or USPA could say because you're not jumping OUT of anything, either. I don't know, I'm not all that experienced, but it seemed like a cool idea. Has anyone ever done this?
--Douva
B-21806
Added on Date: 19:40:40 1/01/99
Name: 386
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
: There are NO friendly rangers just like the cops thay
: smile a thay take you to jail for jumping off a rock ask
: Bill Legg. If you think there the good guys go to Yosamite with a BASE jumping bumper sticker and see what happens!
Hey dude, we all know some ( I said some) rangers suk. Yosemite probably. Flyboy has a decent point. There are cool rangers though, the east coast Mecca has a few. Not too many people have really been screwed at this eastern site, and They do know what's goin on inside the park. I personally was busted doin a dumbarse daytime jump in Arches National Park last fall. That was my mistake. I wasn't really treated unfairly considering the job the rangers are paid and expected to do. It's their job and I paid the fine that was levied, which was not unfair by most standards.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
386
Added on Date: 20:19:57 1/01/99
Name: 386
E-Mail:
Subject: Utah
Body of Message:
Yo, you two guys who live locally in Salt Lake who were
hanging out at the IPBC Tombstone event last spring, if you're online shoot me an email a.s.a.p.. Heading out your way in a couple weeks.
386
Added on Date: 22:51:08 1/01/99
Name: anonymous
E-Mail: soaring_bird@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jumper scorned
Body of Message:
: : : : Get a life?
: : : : Get a brane you moron there all on the same teem
: : : Let's see here, 3 misspellings in one sentence, gross generalizations, you should be dead already.
: : : 386
: : To stupid to get the point ranger?
: Ranger??? 386 did you go and get hired on by the NPS? ha ha
: Harry
I used to be an NPS Ranger AND a (closet) BASE jumper at the same time. Some
of the other rangers I worked with told me, off the record, that they see no crime in jumping, and
that they would pretend they didn't see anything if they were somewhere in the park (alone) that was being
utilized by a responsible jumper or paraglider pilot. They aren't all on the same team, though they
get their paychecks from the same place, and wear the same "pickle costume." I can't speak for
Yosemite, however, though I understand that they function like a Nazi SS unit, hence the Valley's
definition of NPS, which is "Nazi Punks [ @*!?%# ] Also, take it easy on each other, guys.... aren't you
on the same team? Wouldn't you help each other out on a self-rescue situation or do you guys always behave
(even at the exit point) like you're on the Jerry Springer show? Treat each other kindly, and realize that
you need each other's support if the jumping community as a whole is going to grow and look responsible to
others. I agree with the first reply to the original.... get a life, pal.
Added on Date: 23:42:32 1/01/99
Name: lil' bird
E-Mail: soaring_bird@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
:
: : There are NO friendly rangers just like the cops thay
: : smile a thay take you to jail for jumping off a rock ask
: : Bill Legg. If you think there the good guys go to Yosamite with a BASE jumping bumper sticker and see what happens!
: Trying to pull Base jumpers together to go against all Park Rangers goes against what the CJAA and IPBC are trying to do. We are trying to get along with the authorities and get rid of the Bad Boy ( and yes you too girls ) image.
: Go to an illegal site and get busted,,, that is the chance you take. I have been busted as well as most jumpers with more than 1 or 2 hundred Base jumps. Just [ @*!?%# ] it up and go on. You shouldn't persecute Rangers for doing their jobs, just imagine if the NPS let every wannabe Base jumper jump off everything in sight. I'll tell you this, there would be alot of dead jumpers and there would be alot of expensive rescue efforts going on. Who would pay for that? There has to be some kind of laws, otherwise....
: What if there were no police? There would be alot of people getting shot, robbed, killed. etc...
: Society cannot rule itself, there has to be a law to keep us dumbasses in check.
: personally I thank God for police and Park Rangers. What would life in the U.S. be like without them?
: I'm personally against you.
: Flyboy
Bravo.... I could not have said it better myself. Thanks for your intelligent reply.
I'm with you, Flyboy. The jumping community cannot afford to take an anarchist approach to our sport if we ever
expect to enjoy any freedom (such as sanctioned events) and positive media coverage. Most rangers (outside Yosemite)
don't enjoy busting beligerent offendors any more than they like scraping up the dead off of talus slopes. We all
need to understand and accept the consequences of our actions. This poor dude not only can't spell, but is the type of person
that could shut a bunch of sites down for a lot of responsible people. My suggestions to him are 1.) Chill out and start working
WITH your fellow jumpers instead of against them. 2.) Pray to God for forgiveness for the damage you are doing to our sport.
and/or 3.) If you don't believe in God, stop jumping because the bad karma or bad juju you are bringing onto yourself is going
to catch up to you in a bad way someday when you run out of altitude. Good luck.
Added on Date: 00:15:23 1/02/99
Name: Happy New Year
E-Mail:
Subject: B.A.S.E. Jumping
Body of Message:
I'd been eyeballin' them power towers for ages!
Adrenaline Joe (rip) had boasted of conquering
one of 'em at least a couple years ago.
When cliffhumit showed up in town, I knew it had
to happen on New-Years-Day (well, night).
So I handed cliff one of my packed rigs,
and off we went under the full-moon,
with Miss Blondo, our happy ground crew.
We slipped passed the razor wire, skipped the
rusty steps, and before you knew it, the Avocet
gave us the scoop, 330'.
"Man that's low" he said, "You go first".
This way urban scenario was good to us!!
(No we weren't in Rio something-or-other).
Added on Date: 03:39:42 1/02/99
Name: Me
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Has it ever been tried?
Body of Message:
: I've done it towed behind a boat (~parasail) and behind a car...
As long as your on private property most people wont give two hoots what you do..!!!
Added on Date: 07:34:34 1/02/99
Name: Tom B
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Twist lines suk...
Body of Message:
If you were the same guy we were told about we were there (near the bunjee cable car at L)a few days after you. The weather (wind)was great when we jumped and there was no rotors/turbulence on any of the cliffs in the valley....
I've had line twists once in 260 jumps(at Kjerag) but it was no problem as I was a long way from the wall. The twists were caused by me playing silly buggers with my body position whilst filming someone else and deploying. Not a lot of effort was required to clear the twists (I got them out using scissor kicks after turning away from the object using the toggles).
From my perspective you should get your canopy facing away from the object first using two hands agressively on one riser (don't over do it???) and then secondly try to kick the twists out. Unless you have really bad twists you should be able to steer through them. If you can reach above the twists that's even better (you have abnormally long arms though).
Added on Date: 07:49:49 1/02/99
Name: Tom B
E-Mail:
Subject: Salt Water Contamination
Body of Message:
For all you folks doing water jumps -> check out the following link - select "Technical Articles" and then "Saltwater contamination of Nylon: consequences and redemptive procedures."
Link: Salt Water Contamination
Added on Date: 08:27:36 1/02/99
Name: Bazil
E-Mail: bazair2air@pcisys.net
Subject: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
Your focus is in the wrong place. Rangers are simple
servants of the law who are doing what they are told.
If you want to express your anger somewhere it may have
a positive effect try directing it toward the judicial system.
They are the ones who are inflicting this BS on us.
The only person I know that is capable of properly changing this
situation right now is Morelli. He is in an intense battle with the
courts right now to change all this. He's doing a great job but he
could use some help. This may be our last good chance. If we loose
the battle now it will be incredibly difficult to change things.
So, if you want to do something besides piss and moan about how bad
things are why don't you try sending a donation to "It's Our Park Too"
PO Box 592 Belleville, Il 62222 which helps support this battle and see
if we can turn the system around.
I bet you'll find those Rangers to be pretty friendly, helpful
people when we have the law on our side.
Bazil
Added on Date: 10:56:36 1/02/99
Name: Bazil
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Has it ever been tried?
Body of Message:
:Now, here's my question. Has anyone ever tried para-ascending to this height (or higher or lower),
:cutting away, and going into freefall?
: --Douva
: B-21806
You try that in a skydiving rig and I would put your odds of burning
in at about 99.9%
Bazil
Added on Date: 11:19:21 1/02/99
Name: MB1
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Re: Has it ever been tried?
Body of Message:
: :Now, here's my question. Has anyone ever tried para-ascending to this height (or higher or lower),
: :cutting away, and going into freefall?
: : --Douva
: : B-21806
: You try that in a skydiving rig and I would put your odds of burning
: in at about 99.9%
: Bazil
I have done what you guys are talking about and to say the least it,s dangerous.I broke my ankle when the rope broke and a friend broke her back cutting away a little to low.IT can be done but there are alot variables.Do anything wrong and chances are death or at least pain good luck. Black and Blue Base MB1
Added on Date: 12:29:28 1/02/99
Name: Douva
E-Mail: lewdouva@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Has it ever been tried?
Body of Message:
: :Now, here's my question. Has anyone ever tried para-ascending to this height (or higher or lower),
: :cutting away, and going into freefall?
: : --Douva
: : B-21806
: You try that in a skydiving rig and I would put your odds of burning
: in at about 99.9%
: Bazil
I didn't say I was going to try it! I just said it sounded like a cool idea. Obviously your reserve would have to be modified like a BASE rig, and you'd have to be able to chop away the rope. I was just curious if it had been tried.
Blue Skies,
Douva
Added on Date: 12:35:48 1/02/99
Name: Matt
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Utah
Body of Message:
: Yo, you two guys who live locally in Salt Lake who were
: hanging out at the IPBC Tombstone event last spring, if you're online shoot me an email a.s.a.p.. Heading out your way in a couple weeks.
: 386
Hey 386, what is your e-mail address?
Added on Date: 02:00:40 1/03/99
Name: Happy Flicker
E-Mail:
Subject: I Got My BASE Number!!!
Body of Message:
JUST KIDDING!!!
(C'mon... someone had to do it!)
Can't wait to see ya'll in Moab...
Safe travels!
Peace.
Denise
:-)
Added on Date: 03:33:46 1/03/99
Name: soaring_bird
E-Mail: soaring_bird@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Questions abou Canopy Soaring.....
Body of Message:
Hey Douva,
A good place to look is the US Hang Gliding Assoc. web page
at www.ushga.com where there is a list of all the paraglider
instructors in the US plus a good article (under
"Articles") called "From Parachutes to Paragliders."
There is at least one paragliding instructor in Albuquerque,
and once your friend learns to glide of small hills,
he will realize that cliff launches are definitely considered
advanced techniques. Cliffs that are rounded at the top are
easier to launch in winds than cliffs with an abrupt (square)
edge. This is because of the rotor at the top, of course. The
most important thing is to get some instruction. Also, once your
friend soars a paraglider, they'll never want to go back to any skydiving
or BASE canopy... the performance difference is as significant as driving
a corvette vs. an old '63 ford pickup with 200,000 miles on the original engine.
Working thermals and going cross country, by the way, is a whole lot more
fun and challenging than gliding off of cliffs or even doing extended ridge
soaring back and forth in front of a hill or cliff. It's what the sport is all
about. For the same reason, skydivers prefer RW and freeflying over doing static
line jumps and canopy rides...... Paragliding has come into an age of its own, and
cross-country is where it's at. Best regards and hope your friend finds an instructor.
By the way, yes it is possible to soar a skydiving canopy, but, as others indicated, you
do need a steeper hill (or cliff) and more wind to get a sustained soaring flight.
I started soaring my Pegasus before getting into real paragliders. A Manta or something big
is much better than a small, fast, high-wing-loaded, modern zero P due to the scary nature of
low-altitude mechanical turbulence that does funny things to small Zero P canopies
low to the ground. Paragliders are usually in the 26 to 310 sq. ft. range, though they are
usually measured in square meters with 24 to 28 meters being the common range.
There are used paragliders available from about $1200 up, but you'll want to consult a paraglider
pilot or instructor to find out what you are getting. E-mail me if you're interested in a 5 to 7 yr. old
PD Excalibur paraglider that I know several folks would be glad to part with. They are really safe
for a first paraglider, but are outperformed by today's modern European paragliders. They all are
better than any skydiving canopy's performance (for soaring), and were one of the best gliders you could get
around 1990-1991. Excaliburs are available for $600-$900, though you won't see them advertised since there
is so little demand for them among paragliders. There's nothing wrong with them, in fact, you can do some
things with them that a skydiver wouldn't hesitate (such as pulling front risers) that you can't get away with
on modern elliptical European paragliders (due to the forward horseshoe collapse that would result.)
Such maneuvers are sometimes taught and practiced in advanced maneuvers clinics over water, with an instructor
in radio contact, and with a reserve. Good luck.
Added on Date: 15:54:12 1/03/99
Name: lonnie
E-Mail: extreme@clover.net
Subject: building!
Body of Message:
looking 4 someone to do a building with in Ohio?
Added on Date: 17:53:37 1/03/99
Name: 386 email
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Re: Utah
Body of Message:
: : Yo, you two guys who live locally in Salt Lake who were
: : hanging out at the IPBC Tombstone event last spring, if you're online shoot me an email a.s.a.p.. Heading out your way in a couple weeks.
: : 386
: Hey 386, what is your e-mail address?
michael9@mis.net
386
Added on Date: 20:42:02 1/03/99
Name: Micke N
E-Mail: mikael.nordqvist@capgemini.se
Subject: Re: Twist lines suk...
Body of Message:
: I recently broke my feet and legs while impacting a cliff in Switzerland because of twist lines and 180 off heading. If you have ever experienced twist lines while cliff/building jumping, I would really appreciate
: any information about how you dealed with it. Did you touch the wall? Did you untwist? Did you control the
: canopy? Did you climb over the twists? ...Thank you for your help. BASE!
I had a similar experience at Magland in France last spring, 180 with linetwist, cliffstrike and some hurts. It was a 5 sec delay in good weather conditions. I was jumping a new FOX 265 and it was my 295th BASE jump.
Since we have no video of it I'm not sure what really happend. I've had several 180's before on other canopies but this opening didn't feel like anything I've ever experienced. I had no control of the canopy and I was slammed into the wall.
The only thing I DO KNOW for sure is that I wasn't enough focused on the jump, I just run off and did like a always had done (this was my 20th jump at this site).
Sometimes you learn the hard way...
"Impactor", hope your recovery is fast.
/Micke BASE268
Added on Date: 04:47:19 1/04/99
Name: paul
E-Mail: pnadeau@controlledpower.com
Subject: Re: building!
Body of Message:
I thought you fell off the face of the earth!
Added on Date: 07:19:55 1/04/99
Name: XTREME SPORT TELEVISION
E-Mail: rick@xtremesport-tv.com
Subject: Xtreme sports
Body of Message:
Lets talk, Our show is aired every Wednesday on Fox Sports Netaround the nation
Added on Date: 17:00:19 1/04/99
Name: XTREME SPORT TELEVISION
E-Mail: rick@xtremesport-tv.com
Subject: Xtreme sports
Body of Message:
Lets talk, Our show is aired every Wednesday on Fox Sports Netaround the nation
Added on Date: 17:01:46 1/04/99
Name: Mike
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: building!
Body of Message:
: looking 4 someone to do a building with in Ohio?
Where in Ohio?
Added on Date: 17:35:52 1/04/99
Name: Eric Rhyde
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Re: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
They've been kissing ranger butt for years, ask Jean.
All we've gotten is higher fines and more attatude!
I've given to the defence fund, and I hope he wins but that's been tryed more than once and thay just laugh in our face, where have you been?
Don,t think they chase us just because it's their job, they camp out in the meddow below El Cap on their days off in hopes of " baging a base jumper" It's a feather in their hat!
They keep a list of all the base jumpers they now about and skydivers to they read skydiving to keep track of enything new and thay read this . It's not just a job it's fun ask Frank!
Added on Date: 20:43:38 1/04/99
Name: Couch Potato
E-Mail: Chips&Salsa@Doritos.org
Subject: Re: Xtreme sports
Body of Message:
Xtrem folks don't watch TV
Too busy enjoying their life
'bout you ?
CP
Added on Date: 20:53:12 1/04/99
Name: Yuri
E-Mail: base416@yahoo.com
Subject: Looking for Paul Rockefeller
Body of Message:
Happy New Year!
Does anybody know Paul's whereabouts? Last i've
heard he was in Florida. Any contact info will
be appreciated!
bsbd!
Yuri.
Added on Date: 22:47:15 1/04/99
Name: Alberto
E-Mail: spd300@uswest.net
Subject: Re: Aviable places for Angel Falls
Body of Message:
:
: : How much? and when? please send info asap.thank you : : : :
: : |
Added on Date: 01:36:43 1/05/99
Name: 638
E-Mail: mikel6@mys.nut
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
: They've been kissing ranger butt for years, ask Jean.
: All we've gotten is higher fines and more attatude!
: I've given to the defence fund, and I hope he wins but that's been tryed more than once and thay just laugh in our face, where have you been?
: Don,t think they chase us just because it's their job, they camp out in the meddow below El Cap on their days off in hopes of " baging a base jumper" It's a feather in their hat!
: They keep a list of all the base jumpers they now about and skydivers to they read skydiving to keep track of enything new and thay read this . It's not just a job it's fun ask Frank!
A phew does knot a majoritee maik.
638
Added on Date: 08:49:08 1/05/99
Name: Linus Rains
E-Mail: linus.rains@eu.pnu.com
Subject: Les Alps y Dolomites
Body of Message:
Hello everyone!
I would like to get some local input or someone with better knowledge of the wether conditions, if they are favorable in early spring or perhaps not. Previous trips I have made during late summer. The winds would build up to where we would stop jumping most sites by 11 am and then die down again after dinner allowing a jump or two in the evening (depending on the hike). Is this the case even during other times of the year. Further more there was no snow and I know from skiing in the area during a few winters some years ago that this must be a problem at some of the cliffs this time of year. How much can I expect to get out of a trip during spring, should I wait, until when?
Please e-mail me, thanx :-))
Added on Date: 09:01:12 1/05/99
Name: Drew
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: building!
Body of Message:
: looking 4 someone to do a building with in Ohio?
Cleveland ROCKS!!!!!!!!!
Added on Date: 09:32:47 1/05/99
Name: It's Cold in this meadow!
E-Mail: BASE-O-ElCap@USNPS.GOV
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
: Don,t think they chase us just because it's their job, they camp out in the meddow below El Cap on their days off in hopes of " baging a base jumper" It's a feather in their hat!
: And thay read this . It's not just a job it's fun ask Frank!
I've been camping out here for months and haven't "baged" a jumper since November, and boy is it fun. The feathers in by cap don't even keep me warm. Nothing else to do but read "Skydiving" magizines and update my list. This is really fun, right Frank? Maybe I should go see the judge to get the fines raised again. Oh, and Eric, is there a problem with my "attatude?"
bsbd
E.R. (Egger Rainger)
Added on Date: 14:05:54 1/05/99
Name: It's Cold in this meadow!
E-Mail: BASE-O-ElCap@USNPS.GOV
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
: Don,t think they chase us just because it's their job, they camp out in the meddow below El Cap on their days off in hopes of " baging a base jumper" It's a feather in their hat!
: And thay read this . It's not just a job it's fun ask Frank!
I've been camping out here for months and haven't "baged" a jumper since November, and boy is it fun. The feathers in by cap don't even keep me warm. Nothing else to do but read "Skydiving" magizines and update my list. This is really fun, right Frank? Maybe I should go see the judge to get the fines raised again. Oh, and Eric, is there a problem with my "attatude?"
bsbd
E.R. (Egger Rainger)
Added on Date: 14:02:14 1/05/99
Name: It's Cold in this meadow!
E-Mail: BASE-O-ElCap@USNPS.GOV
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
: Don,t think they chase us just because it's their job, they camp out in the meddow below El Cap on their days off in hopes of " baging a base jumper" It's a feather in their hat!
: And thay read this . It's not just a job it's fun ask Frank!
I've been camping out here for months and haven't "baged" a jumper since November, and boy is it fun. The feathers in by cap don't even keep me warm. Nothing else to do but read "Skydiving" magizines and update my list. This is really fun, right Frank? Maybe I should go see the judge to get the fines raised again. Oh, and Eric, is there a problem with my "attatude?"
bsbd
E.R. (Egger Rainger)
Added on Date: 14:09:24 1/05/99
Name: erotica
E-Mail: erotica_w@hotmail.com
Subject: long wave antennnae
Body of Message:
hi you guys if any one has any info on LW antennae please
please let us know we don't want to fry our brains
we irish are mad but not that mad
thanks luv erotica :-0
Added on Date: 16:20:15 1/05/99
Name: jason
E-Mail: adrenalineslut@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: AM and FM antennas
Body of Message:
Boy this "antennae" sure resembles a particular bridge that I know of!!
: Click Here For the Killer Antenna
Added on Date: 18:52:22 1/05/99
Name: Frank
E-Mail: BASEjumpr@AOL.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
: They've been kissing ranger butt for years, ask Jean.
: All we've gotten is higher fines and more [attatude]!
: I've given to the [defence] fund, and I hope he wins but that's been [tryed] more than once and [thay] just laugh in our face, where have you been?
: Don,t think they chase us just because it's their job, they camp out in the [meddow] below El Cap on their days off in hopes of " [baging] a base jumper" It's a feather in their hat!
: They keep a list of all the base jumpers they [now] about and skydivers [to] they read skydiving to keep track of [enything] new and [thay] read this . It's not just a job it's fun ask Frank!
Doesn't literacy s u c k?
Added on Date: 20:13:01 1/05/99
Name: Frank
E-Mail: BASEjumpr@AOL.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: You'r eather with us or agen us
Body of Message:
: They've been kissing ranger butt for years, ask Jean.
: All we've gotten is higher fines and more [attatude!]
: I've given to the [defence] fund, and I hope he wins but that's been [tryed] more than once and [thay] just laugh in our face, where have you been?
: Don,t think they chase us just because it's their job, they camp out in the [meddow] below El Cap on their days off in hopes of " [baging] a base jumper" It's a feather in their hat!
: They keep a list of all the base jumpers they [now] about and skydivers [to] they read skydiving to keep track of [enything] new and [thay] read this . It's not just a job it's fun ask Frank!
Doesn't literacy s u c k?
Added on Date: 19:30:55 1/05/99
Name: lonnie
E-Mail: extreme@clover.net
Subject: Re: Re: building!
Body of Message:
: : looking 4 someone to do a building with in Ohio?
: Where in Ohio?
i'm 100 miles east of columbus, what ever's close with low bust factor!
Added on Date: 20:15:11 1/05/99
Name: Lonnie
E-Mail: extreme@clover.net
Subject: Re: Re: building!
Body of Message:
: : looking 4 someone to do a building with in Ohio?
: Cleveland ROCKS!!!!!!!!!
lets get together I have 22 base jumps everything but my building my Ph. 740 545 7006
Added on Date: 20:09:06 1/05/99
Name: Lonnie
E-Mail: extreme@clover.net
Subject: Re: Re: building!
Body of Message:
: : looking 4 someone to do a building with in Ohio?
: Cleveland ROCKS!!!!!!!!!
lets get together I have 22 base jumps everything but my building my Ph. 740 545 7006
Added on Date: 20:06:27 1/05/99
Name: Avery
E-Mail: badenhop@home.com
Subject: U.K. trip
Body of Message:
After we leave Norway, we're going to go over to U.K.
for a week, in the beginning of August.
Anybody over there want to e-me??
Thanks!
Avery
Added on Date: 00:38:41 1/06/99
Name: DAVE DRAPER
E-Mail: debbie@avant-garde.co.za
Subject: Photographs
Body of Message:
We are a publishing company in South Africa and require photographs of the following base sites (can anyone help ):
1) El Capitan
2) Angel Falls
3) Sears Tower
4) Petronis Towers
5) World Trade Centre
6) Sotano de las Galondrinas
7) Trollveggen - Norway
8) New River Gorge Bridge
Added on Date: 03:09:15 1/06/99
Name: Ronald Overdijk
E-Mail: knvvlpa@xs4all.nl
Subject: Re: Photographs
Body of Message:
: We are a publishing company in South Africa and require photographs of the following base sites (can anyone help ):
: 1) El Capitan
: 2) Angel Falls
: 3) Sears Tower
: 4) Petronis Towers
: 5) World Trade Centre
: 6) Sotano de las Galondrinas
: 7) Trollveggen - Norway
I have slides from El Capitan and from Angel Falls, however, not with jumpers on it, just sites.
: 8) New River Gorge Bridge
Added on Date: 07:51:30 1/06/99
Name: Ali Katt
E-Mail: basejunkie@hotmail.com
Subject: Just what we have been lookin' for !?
Body of Message:
I'd like to draw your attention to: 'Rock + Ice'#89-page 118 OR www.suuntousa.com/products/vector.html for a hot new piece of gear.
Added on Date: 15:45:58 1/06/99
Name: bps
E-Mail: sky_guy_ca@yahoo.com
Subject: AV or INBAR - PLEASE READ!
Body of Message:
Av -
I have been trying to send important information to your e-mail address, but it is coming back rejected.
Please send me your e-mail address and/or telephone number as soon as possible.
Thanks!
Bryan
sky_guy_ca@yahoo.com
Added on Date: 17:04:40 1/06/99
Name: Flyboy
E-Mail: basejmpr@email.com
Subject: BASE rigs for sale.
Body of Message:
Yes it's me again...
I have 2 BASE rigs for sale, both are velcro closed and both are new.
one has a Fox 265 8 jumps $1250.00
one has a Mojo 240 2 jumps $1350.00
Both have new rigs with the same # of jumps.
WARNING: Both rigs are very colorful and camera/video friendly. If you are worried about bright colors don't bother (can't see colors at night anyway) If jumping in the daytime,,, might get caught anyway so might as well look good anyway.
Happy landings,
Flyboy
Added on Date: 19:18:04 1/06/99
Name: base428
E-Mail: fixed@321cya.com
Subject: Re: Just what we have been lookin' for !?
Body of Message:
: I'd like to draw your attention to:
Or you can see all altiwatches on my page at:
base428
Link: GET FIXED!
Added on Date: 23:46:23 1/06/99
Name: Wayne Crill
E-Mail: crillwd@mail.utexas.edu
Subject: Looking for Matt Moore from Moab.
Body of Message:
Looking for Matt Moore from desert highlights?, I think I've got the name correct, I've lost your e-mail address, will you please drop me a line or post your address?
Thanks!
Wayne
Added on Date: 09:58:30 1/07/99
Name: GQ
E-Mail: alpha94@bellsouth.com
Subject: Batwing 116 4 Sale
Body of Message:
Batwing 116, vectron lines, speed package, relined about 30 jumps ago, has about 250 jumps total.
e-mail for pic, canopy is orange(ish) stain glass window, gotta see it $950
Added on Date: 20:26:11 1/07/99
Name: Johnzx
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Twist lines suk...
Body of Message:
1st....learn how to pack.
2nd....learn body position.
3rd....learn, learn, learn, learn.................
Added on Date: 21:27:49 1/07/99
Name: Bill
E-Mail: bs437@aol.com
Subject: Fox vs Mojo vs Raven
Body of Message:
Does anyone out there have any strong feelings? (pro or con) about these canopies. I am looking to purchase and all thoughts would be appreciated.
Bill
Added on Date: 21:48:00 1/07/99
Name: Micke N
E-Mail: mikael.nordqvist@capgemini.se
Subject: Re: Re: Twist lines suk...
Body of Message:
: 1st....learn how to pack.
: 2nd....learn body position.
: 3rd....learn, learn, learn, learn.................
And when you still get bad openings, what do you do?
Let's face it, BASE is dangerous. You can do everthing right, jump state-of-the-art equipment, do the best packjobs, jump in the best weather conditions, and STILL get hurt or killed.
Sometimes when everything goes soooo smooth one tends to forget this fact.
/Micke BASE268
Added on Date: 05:48:00 1/08/99
Name: Nick
E-Mail: br@inland.net
Subject: Re: Fox vs Mojo vs Raven
Body of Message:
While the Raven is an excellent canopy for
skydiving, I suggest you don't repeat the
mistakes of the past (like most of us did)
and go straight to something designed for
the purpose. You'd be fine with either a
FOX or a Mojo, (I'm a bit partial to the
FOX myself). Send me your mailing address,
and I'll send you our catalog, prices, etc.
Nick Di Giovanni, BASE 194
Basic Research
Link: Basic Research
Added on Date: 11:09:59 1/08/99
Name: Just Curious
E-Mail:
Subject: Stratosphere Tower, Las Vegas
Body of Message:
Who jumped it first? And when?
Added on Date: 13:22:07 1/08/99
Name: adrenalineslut
E-Mail: adrenalineslut@yahoo.com
Subject: Thanks Tim, for the hospitality????
Body of Message:
I just wanted to thank you for all the hospitality you showed me while I was in St. Louis. It's always good to meet new BASE jumpers and hang out-- It's too bad you couldn't find the time to return my repeated phone calls or let me know you weren't going to show. Thats cool I jumped without you, elsewhere. Tim, if you are ever in my neck of the woods call me, I won't leave you hanging.
Added on Date: 17:35:12 1/08/99
Name: kleggo
E-Mail: craigf@cryogen-inc.com
Subject: Re: Re: Fox vs Mojo vs Raven
Body of Message:
: While the Raven is an excellent canopy for
: skydiving, I suggest you don't repeat the
: mistakes of the past (like most of us did)
: and go straight to something designed for
: the purpose.
:
: Nick Di Giovanni, BASE 194
: Basic Research
it depends upon the length of delay and your pilot chute choice.
i own both a fox and super raven ............. and other stuff, but to the point.
i prefer the raven for longer delays which necessitate a mesh or sail slider.
i prefer the fox for no slider jumps.
various pro's / con's.
raven is easier to pack, lighter to carry, packs smaller.
fox has flatter glide yet still flares better, reinforcement makes it a better choice for no slider or big pc jumps. short stabilizers help, but it's still a lot more nylon to pack.
my advice..............drum roll please.......
doing mostly 5 + second delays with 38" or smaller pc? use a s. raven with a tail pocket.
doing shorter delays with 42" or bigger pc? the fox is the wise choice.
stay safe,
kleggo
Added on Date: 19:01:34 1/08/99
Name: sdgsdg
E-Mail:
Subject: sdsdg
Body of Message:
gdgsdg
Added on Date: 20:50:21 1/08/99
Name: space
E-Mail: base283@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Fox vs Mojo vs Raven
Body of Message:
: Does anyone out there have any strong feelings? (pro or con) about these canopies. I am looking to purchase and all thoughts would be appreciated.
: Bill
Mojo or fox are both cool base canopies to have,
the advantages of a raven are it will turn with brakes stowed with a DBS, although it is IMHO more line over prone due to it´s high aspect ratio and needs more care in packing to reduce the likelyhood of Line overs.
cya
space
Added on Date: 20:54:38 1/08/99
Name: Flyboy
E-Mail: basejmpr@email.com
Subject: Re: Thanks Tim, for the hospitality????
Body of Message:
: I just wanted to thank you for all the hospitality you showed me while I was in St. Louis. It's always good to meet new BASE jumpers and hang out-- It's too bad you couldn't find the time to return my repeated phone calls or let me know you weren't going to show. Thats cool I jumped without you, elsewhere. Tim, if you are ever in my neck of the woods call me, I won't leave you hanging.
Whomp,,, There it is.
Flyboy
Added on Date: 22:23:22 1/08/99
Name: YoYoYoYoYO
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Re: Thanks Tim, for the hospitality????
Body of Message:
: : I just wanted to thank you for all the hospitality you showed me while I was in St. Louis. It's always good to meet new BASE jumpers and hang out-- It's too bad you couldn't find the time to return my repeated phone calls or let me know you weren't going to show. Thats cool I jumped without you, elsewhere. Tim, if you are ever in my neck of the woods call me, I won't leave you hanging.
Don't sweat it too much. He probably would have had a lineover anyway. Whomp there that is...
YoYoYoYoYO
Added on Date: 06:15:22 1/09/99
Name: space
E-Mail: base283@yahoo.com
Subject: Line Twist Causes
Body of Message:
The major cause of line twist for the experienced jumper IMHO is an assymetric PC, this could be assembled assymetric, or built assymetric,
as for as reaching above the twist, it helps compressing the L/R risers to move the twists lower so you have a chance to reach above, I would never try to steer below the twists as the friction can hold the turn, unless spiralling in was more advantageous than an object strike,that´s me though, what does everyone else think?
cya
space
Added on Date: 10:02:33 1/09/99
Name: Dave Fabian
E-Mail: dave_fabian@hotmail.com
Subject: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
Hmm, well, I just started reading up on base and
ordering catalogs and stuff; I'll visit some knowledgeable
folks soon enough....
Quick question: I'm 180 lbs, and when skydiving
jump a Sabre 150. What size base canopy should I get ?
I've never based, and I have 350 skydives.
Added on Date: 10:41:19 1/09/99
Name: Flyboy
E-Mail: basejmpr@email.com
Subject: Re: Line Twist Causes
Body of Message:
: The major cause of line twist for the experienced jumper IMHO is an assymetric PC, this could be assembled assymetric, or built assymetric,
: as for as reaching above the twist, it helps compressing the L/R risers to move the twists lower so you have a chance to reach above, I would never try to steer below the twists as the friction can hold the turn, unless spiralling in was more advantageous than an object strike,that´s me though, what does everyone else think?
: cya
: space
Hello Space,
I don't know what kind of objects you are jumping but personally,,, I don't think that I would waste any time pushing my risers together and reaching "Above" them to be able to steer the canopy. I think that I would go in to the ground or whatever, doing what comes naturally...
Kicking and "un"twisting my butt off until touchdown, or until I have control of my canopy. If your line twists are so major that you never get the line twists out,,, well it may be time for some packing lessons or some body position adjustments. Deploying "slider off" on your side or worse will almost always give you the line twists that you speak of. I don't doubt your theory about unsymetrical pilot chutes giving line twists so my answer is to not have one. Buy pilot chutes from BR, GS, or CR. Most base jmprs know what those groups of 2 letters mean.
Next time I have line twists I'll have to remember to say..."That damn pilot chute does that to me every time" I'll probably get laughed at by all.
Truth be known about line twists, sometimes they just happen. You can have perfect body position, good pack job, and a good pilot chute and a good exit and "Kerack" damn line twists. There you go off into the night kicking your butt off again and cursing your pilot chute... ha ha
(Space, this isn't against you at all, it's just a personal opinion) So please don't take it personal and start flaming me out on the net. It's my personal 2 cents, take it or leave it.
Blue skies happy landings
and no cops or rangers,
Flyboy
Added on Date: 10:56:09 1/09/99
Name: eric Fradet
E-Mail: ericfradet@Yahoo.com
Subject: 4 Sale
Body of Message:
For Sale Velcro rig (Wizard) like nem, made for 5'8 + main is a Maverick, tail pocket, 30 jumps on the canopy,only $ 700 contact by mail= ericfradet@Yahoo.com
Added on Date: 11:30:17 1/09/99
Name: Mick Knutson
E-Mail: mknutson@websolution.com
Subject: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
I would suggest a 280'. I am 170lb and use a 220' and a 260' and I am about to order a 280' myself.
You will never regret the extra material on a BASE Rig!
You can always get a "Toy" rig later when you have many current BASE Jumps and then try to land a 220' "Rocket".
When I say "Rocket", I mean that in BASE Jumping, most landings will be tight and fairly unforgiving. Compound that with the fact that most jumps are at night.
You will be burning in on a 220' or smaller. I have never jumped anything smaller than a 220' in BASE. I skydive with a ST. 107 and release my canopy agressions there, not on my BASE Jumps!
My 2 cents...
Mick
BASE #454
Added on Date: 11:47:10 1/09/99
Name: John
E-Mail: linkie@mweb.co.za
Subject: Re: BASE rigs for sale.
Body of Message:
: Yes it's me again...
: I have 2 BASE rigs for sale, both are velcro closed and both are new.
: one has a Fox 265 8 jumps $1250.00
: one has a Mojo 240 2 jumps $1350.00
What color is the harnass?
What color is the mojo?
Why are you selling?
Looking for new gear. Please e-mail me
Thanx
Added on Date: 12:40:08 1/09/99
Name: Flyboy
E-Mail: basejmpr@email.com
Subject: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
: Hmm, well, I just started reading up on base and
: ordering catalogs and stuff; I'll visit some knowledgeable
: folks soon enough....
: Quick question: I'm 180 lbs, and when skydiving
: jump a Sabre 150. What size base canopy should I get ?
: I've never based, and I have 350 skydives.
I agree with Mick as far as a 280 is concerned but a canopy in the 260 range will treat you nicely too. Packing a 280 is in itself like a tandem canopy, it's big and harder to pack.
My 2 Cents,
Flyboy
Added on Date: 15:28:35 1/09/99
Name: space
E-Mail: base283@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Re: Line Twist Causes
Body of Message:
: Hello Space,
: I don't know what kind of objects you are jumping but personally,,, I don't think that I would waste any time pushing my risers together and reaching "Above" them to be able to steer the canopy. I think that I would go in to the ground or whatever, doing what comes naturally...
: Kicking and "un"twisting my butt off until touchdown, or until I have control of my canopy. If your line twists are so major that you never get the line twists out,,, well it may be time for some packing lessons or some body position adjustments. Deploying "slider off" on your side or worse will almost always give you the line twists that you speak of. I don't doubt your theory about unsymetrical pilot chutes giving line twists so my answer is to not have one. Buy pilot chutes from BR, GS, or CR. Most base jmprs know what those groups of 2 letters mean.
: Next time I have line twists I'll have to remember to say..."That damn pilot chute does that to me every time" I'll probably get laughed at by all.
: Truth be known about line twists, sometimes they just happen. You can have perfect body position, good pack job, and a good pilot chute and a good exit and "Kerack" damn line twists. There you go off into the night kicking your butt off again and cursing your pilot chute... ha ha
: (Space, this isn't against you at all, it's just a personal opinion) So please don't take it personal and start flaming me out on the net. It's my personal 2 cents, take it or leave it.
: : The major cause of line twist for the experienced jumper IMHO is an assymetric PC, this could be assembled assymetric, or built assymetric,
: : as for as reaching above the twist, it helps compressing the L/R risers to move the twists lower so you have a chance to reach above, I would never try to steer below the twists as the friction can hold the turn, unless spiralling in was more advantageous than an object strike,that´s me though, what does everyone else think?
: : cya
: : space
: Hello Space,
: I don't know what kind of objects you are jumping but personally,,, I don't think that I would waste any time pushing my risers together and reaching "Above" them to be able to steer the canopy. I think that I would go in to the ground or whatever, doing what comes naturally...
: Kicking and "un"twisting my butt off until touchdown, or until I have control of my canopy. If your line twists are so major that you never get the line twists out,,, well it may be time for some packing lessons or some body position adjustments. Deploying "slider off" on your side or worse will almost always give you the line twists that you speak of. I don't doubt your theory about unsymetrical pilot chutes giving line twists so my answer is to not have one. Buy pilot chutes from BR, GS, or CR. Most base jmprs know what those groups of 2 letters mean.
: Next time I have line twists I'll have to remember to say..."That damn pilot chute does that to me every time" I'll probably get laughed at by all.
: Truth be known about line twists, sometimes they just happen. You can have perfect body position, good pack job, and a good pilot chute and a good exit and "Kerack" damn line twists. There you go off into the night kicking your butt off again and cursing your pilot chute... ha ha
: (Space, this isn't against you at all, it's just a personal opinion) So please don't take it personal and start flaming me out on the net. It's my personal 2 cents, take it or leave it.
Hi Flyboy,
here´s my response, Not flamin ya, but do ya really think that experienced BASErs have a problem packing or with body position on deployment. or should I ask what you think an experienced jumper is in your book? as far as the 2 letter deal,CR,BR,GS, I have known most all of these people for more than 9yrs, only Annie is the exception of less than 9 yrs of knowing.
: I don't know what kind of objects you are jumping,
High to med walls.
:,,, I don't think that I would waste any time pushing my risers together and reaching "Above" them to be able to steer the canopy. I think that I would go in to the ground or whatever, doing what comes naturally...
: Kicking and "un"twisting my butt off until touchdown, or until I have control of my canopy.
IMHO you are absolutely wrong here! Control your canopy is the priority, we´re not talkin about touch down, more like object strike, Kicking and untwisting until you hit the object seems quite unproductive as opposed to turning away from the object and then untwisting, granted there are differing degrees of twists and it may be possible to untwist before striking the object, so as not to say you shouldn´t consider it.
The rest of your post is poking at me and since you ask me not to take offense I won´t respond,since you jest me in good humor,I wish you a humorous new year and please send me a good american joke as I am in europe and could use some more humor,
kickback
cya
space
Added on Date: 15:31:06 1/09/99
Name: BASE178
E-Mail: BASE178@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stratosphere Tower, Las Vegas
Body of Message:
: Who jumped it first? And when?
I did my first jump off of the big stick on 1-16-94. It was only at 800' then and still under construction of course. I did it solo with no support. I subseguently did 8 more off it after that. I did do a night in the Vegas jail for it on one occassion. I don't know if that was the first one, I think it was. I probably have the most jumps off of it too.
Added on Date: 16:38:08 1/09/99
Name: Oversized problem
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
What's going on with canopy sizes...
If we keep going at this rate we WILL be jumping tandem size wings...
I weight 165lbs and jump several 220's and never
have problems landing where and how I want to
I would agree if the jumps are made at 5000+ASL but let's get real folks...
Maybe the market is ready for a better performing wing instead of over sizing to make up for poor lift...
Just my opinion
Rx
Added on Date: 18:03:26 1/09/99
Name: Flyboy
E-Mail: basejmpr@email.com
Subject: Re: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
: What's going on with canopy sizes...
: If we keep going at this rate we WILL be jumping tandem size wings...
: I weight 165lbs and jump several 220's and never
: have problems landing where and how I want to
: I would agree if the jumps are made at 5000+ASL but let's get real folks...
: Maybe the market is ready for a better performing wing instead of over sizing to make up for poor lift...
: Just my opinion
: Rx
Your name says it all "Rx" because you will need a prescription if you get into a tight area with too small a canopy. If someone has to sink his/her canopy straight down for some unforseen emergency a small canopy will most likely break your legs or back. I weigh 180 and I can land a small canopy but I wouldn't want to have to front riser or hook it in everytime to get some lift.
This ain't skydiving folks and there is nothing wrong with the performance of the true BASE canopies.. ie... Fox or Mojo.
Keep it safe, sometimes more is better.
Especially in BASE. More canopy, more caution, more safety equipment... should I go on???
There are non BASE jumpers who read these postings and go buy stuff that will ultimately get them hurt because someone said smaller is better...
Nothing personal, just "My" opinion.
Flyboy
Added on Date: 18:55:40 1/09/99
Name: Mick Knutson
E-Mail: mknutson@websolution.com
Subject: Re: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
Have you ever tried landing your 220' in an opening the size of a car (5'x12')?
How about having a 180 off a 350' cliff and being forced to land on some bolder covered talus?
How about....There are several situations.....
I am not saying that we use 375' mains.
What I was saying is that I have had my 260' pull me out of some situations that I may have been hurt with a 220'
I have also walked off of some jumps because I knew that my 260' was too big and even front risering would have pushed me back into a forest.
My bottom line opinion is that "You will never regret a little extra canopy". (for BASE Jumps at least)
If you have the luxury of great landing conditions or can just afford it, get a small canopy for fun and a large one (280' for this guy) and you have the best of both worlds.
You just have to understand who is reading your post....A "NEW" jumper. Not someone who was 100+ advanced base jumps this year alone.
If you assume the ability of others who are asking for help then they may get hurt or just buy the wrond stuff.
SAFER IS BETTER!!!!!!!!
My nickle................
Mick
PS. I have thought of testing some tandem size mains myself!
Anyone tried this? Anyone have a main to lend?
Link: BASE Board - Frequently Asked Questions
Added on Date: 19:04:42 1/09/99
Name: ken
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Re: Line Twist Causes
Body of Message:
What about Vertigo? they have excellent base gear
Somewhere in Florida.
Ken
: : The major cause of line twist for the experienced jumper IMHO is an assymetric PC, this could be assembled assymetric, or built assymetric,
: : as for as reaching above the twist, it helps compressing the L/R risers to move the twists lower so you have a chance to reach above, I would never try to steer below the twists as the friction can hold the turn, unless spiralling in was more advantageous than an object strike,that´s me though, what does everyone else think?
: : cya
: : space
: Hello Space,
: I don't know what kind of objects you are jumping but personally,,, I don't think that I would waste any time pushing my risers together and reaching "Above" them to be able to steer the canopy. I think that I would go in to the ground or whatever, doing what comes naturally...
: Kicking and "un"twisting my butt off until touchdown, or until I have control of my canopy. If your line twists are so major that you never get the line twists out,,, well it may be time for some packing lessons or some body position adjustments. Deploying "slider off" on your side or worse will almost always give you the line twists that you speak of. I don't doubt your theory about unsymetrical pilot chutes giving line twists so my answer is to not have one. Buy pilot chutes from BR, GS, or CR. Most base jmprs know what those groups of 2 letters mean.
: Next time I have line twists I'll have to remember to say..."That damn pilot chute does that to me every time" I'll probably get laughed at by all.
: Truth be known about line twists, sometimes they just happen. You can have perfect body position, good pack job, and a good pilot chute and a good exit and "Kerack" damn line twists. There you go off into the night kicking your butt off again and cursing your pilot chute... ha ha
: (Space, this isn't against you at all, it's just a personal opinion) So please don't take it personal and start flaming me out on the net. It's my personal 2 cents, take it or leave it.
: Blue skies happy landings
: and no cops or rangers,
: Flyboy
Added on Date: 19:25:06 1/09/99
Name: Mike
E-Mail: mcm114@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
Right on, Mick. Here are some more examples:
In addition to the benefits of a larger canopy
with regards to sinking ability, keep in mind that
in low-altitude situations you want all the time
you can get to set yourself up and make a landing
approach. The bigger the canopy, the more time
you have. Also, keep in mind that not all your
landings will be into the wind. Some landing
areas don't offer the opportunity to adjust your
final approach according to wind direction. You
may also encounter some unpredictable or strange
wind situations, especially on buildings and low
bridges, such as rotors.
That's not to say you can't have a canopy that is
too big, you can. For example, I weigh 155 and jump
a 250 sq. ft. raven 3. I wouldn't jump anything
larger; it gives me a soft landing in almost any
situation, but it is also fairly responsive.
Your mileage may vary. Be conservative.
Added on Date: 22:29:28 1/09/99
Name: Bazil
E-Mail: bazair2air@pcisys.net
Subject: Engineers-live chat
Body of Message:
I have been working with several engineers over the
past month as I am assembling an Antenna Identification
and Information page. It should be complete near the end
of this month.
I have asked the engineers if they would be willing
to do a one sided live chat regarding broadcast, microwave,
AM/FM, etc. It will take quite a bit of coordinating
on my part to accomplish this so I don't want to waste time
if nobody is interested. Also, these people are the essence
of Whuffo but are willing to lend us their knowledge.
They will most likely say things like "that's stupid"
"your nuts" etc. I will not put this together if they are
simply going to be flamed or insulted for doing a good deed.
With that in mind, how much interest is there in a live chat on this subject?
Have fun,
Bazil
Added on Date: 22:37:22 1/09/99
Name: Frank
E-Mail: BASEjumpr@AOL.com
Subject: Re: Engineers-live chat
Body of Message:
YES, I'm VERY interested in more info on antennas. What locations would these antennas be in?
Added on Date: 23:47:37 1/09/99
Name: base428
E-Mail: fixed@321cya.com
Subject: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
: What size base canopy should I get ?
: I've never based, and I have 350 skydives.
Get a demo first. You probably didn't buy your Sabre before your first skydive, right?
base428
Added on Date: 23:56:19 1/09/99
Name: J.H.
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Re: Engineers-live chat
Body of Message:
Hey Frank,
I think it will be antenna's in general,
not site specific.
Added on Date: 00:37:00 1/10/99
Name: Mike
E-Mail: mcm114@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Engineers-live chat
Body of Message:
Good idea.
I think it's about time for something like this.
There is a lot of uncertainty regarding the
effects of radiation from different types of
antennas. I for one would feel a lot more
comfortable knowing which types are more dangerous
than others. I'm not talking about FM vs. AM, but
rather questions about frequencies, and power.
Also, I think it would be important to get some
info on the newer forms of wireless comm. such as
digital, and long-wave broadcasting.
Added on Date: 02:20:36 1/10/99
Name: George Dunn
E-Mail: PeriSun@aol.com
Subject: I [ @*!?%# ] do it
Body of Message:
I tooo scared me!
Added on Date: 04:43:10 1/10/99
Name: Bazil
E-Mail: bazair2air@pcisys.net
Subject: Re: Re: Engineers-live chat
Body of Message:
J.H. is right Frank, it is about antennas in general.
It will be somewhat bias to US systems but the web page has
some information for Australia and other areas.
Bazil
Added on Date: 12:44:57 1/10/99
Name: space
E-Mail: base283@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
: What's going on with canopy sizes...
: If we keep going at this rate we WILL be jumping tandem size wings...
: I weight 165lbs and jump several 220's and never
: have problems landing where and how I want to
: I would agree if the jumps are made at 5000+ASL but let's get real folks...
: Maybe the market is ready for a better performing wing instead of over sizing to make up for poor lift...
Right on! some Manu´s have hinted to me that they are working on this, working on something in Europe also, this old tech is starting to bite biguns.
space
Added on Date: 16:00:40 1/10/99
Name: Keith
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Engineers-live chat
Body of Message:
: Hey Frank,
: I think it will be antenna's in general,
: not site specific.
Sounds dangerous, count me in!
Added on Date: 21:18:49 1/10/99
Name: Mike
E-Mail: mcm114@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
:this old tech is starting to bite biguns.
: space
That sounds a little bit audacious, don't you
think?
After another crisp on-heading opening with my
'low-tech' Raven III, I would be surprised to hear
myself say, "damn this wretchedly slow piece of
crap!"
To be honest, I am pleased as punch, HUMBLED in
fact, that the technology even exists such that I,
a mere mortal can jump from incredible heights and
walk away smiling.
Please excuse my sarcasm as I realize there is
always room for improvement and advancement in
this sport. But, I feel that steps forward need
to be taken slowly, and with extreme caution.
My .02
Added on Date: 23:46:37 1/10/99
Name: Harry Uzzle
E-Mail: imbasen@aol.com
Subject: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
Has anyone jumped a building lower than 140' and not broken anything??? (Yes, static-line or Direct Bag)
I along with a "Few" others has done this successfully 2 times each without getting hurt and was just curious if anyone else has also tried????
Let me know. Oh by the way,,, it was a corner exit with no room for an off-heading opening. The only place to land was a road just below the exit point, with high power lines on one side and another building on the other.
Harry
Added on Date: 01:00:26 1/11/99
Name: George Dunn
E-Mail: PeriSun@aol.com
Subject: Re: I [ @*!?%# ] do it
Body of Message:
I no be able to do it! HaaaaaaaaaaaalllP!
Added on Date: 01:48:17 1/11/99
Name: Dwain
E-Mail: DwainWeston@bigpond.com
Subject: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
: Has anyone jumped a building lower than 140' and not broken anything??? (Yes, static-line or Direct Bag)
: I along with a "Few" others has done this successfully 2 times each without getting hurt and was just curious if anyone else has also tried????
Can't say I've ever done a building this low (antennae yes but not a building).
However a few years ago, I did a couple of DB's from a 60ft high bridge over knee deep water. On both occassions I achieved full pressurisation just before belting in. The small amount of water and sand bottom cushioned the impact considerably. On both occassions I walked away without a limp.
BASE#173 also did it once injury free, in perfect form.
(BTW we were both grounded from skydiving for two weeks for doing these jumps off a bridge right next to a DZ during the State skydiving meet).
Added on Date: 02:07:49 1/11/99
Name: space
E-Mail: base283@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
: :this old tech is starting to bite biguns.
: : space
: That sounds a little bit audacious, don't you
: think?
Only if you are a follower as opposed to a leader,
: After another crisp on-heading opening with my
: 'low-tech' Raven III, I would be surprised to hear
: myself say, "damn this wretchedly slow piece of
: crap!"
as having a lot of jumps on the raven, I like the fact that you can turn it on rear risers.The tail inversion prob [ @*!?%# ] though.
: To be honest, I am pleased as punch, HUMBLED in
: fact, that the technology even exists such that I,
: a mere mortal can jump from incredible heights and
: walk away smiling.
When you are satisfied, your progress stops.
: Please excuse my sarcasm as I realize there is
: always room for improvement and advancement in
: this sport. But, I feel that steps forward need
: to be taken slowly, and with extreme caution.
water is wet, of course,do you actually think I would suggest that you try a really cool, innovative,experimental, unproven canopy on a jump as critical as BASE.
I want to say "get real" but I won´t cause I see you aren´t into the sport as much as some and I respect this.
space
: My .02
Added on Date: 05:51:07 1/11/99
Name: Doug Blane
E-Mail: Doug.Blane@usa.net
Subject: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
The lowest indoor BASE Jump in the world, 102ft from the Whispering Gallery, Saint Paul's Cathedral, London, GB.
Jumped by BASE#230
Deployment method: Buddy
Link: Doug Blane's BASE Jumping
Image: Click for IMAGE
Added on Date: 08:52:22 1/11/99
Name: Doug Blane
E-Mail: Doug.Blane@open.ac.uk
Subject: Re: U.K. trip
Body of Message:
Avery,
Where would you like to jump in the UK?
Do you wan't other UK BASE Jumpers / ground crew / transport / photographer ????
If you wish I could ask some people I know if they would introduse you to some sites?
All the best,
Doug
Link: Doug Blane's BASE Jumping
Added on Date: 09:00:53 1/11/99
Name: Yuri
E-Mail: base416@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
: Has anyone jumped a building lower than 140' and not broken anything??? (Yes, static-line or Direct Bag)
I've jumped a 5' doghouse a couple dozen times.
Unfortunately i did break a bone that was in
a doggie's bowl :-(
bsbd!
Yuri.
Link: Yo !
Image: Click for IMAGE
Added on Date: 09:19:28 1/11/99
Name: Tom B
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
You obviously never jump sites with nasty landing areas (or you jump sites with paddocks only below). Unfortunately there are a million BASE sites that suit only larger canopies. On these sites you need to make a vertical descent (i.e you can't generate all this sexy elliptical lift you get in skydiving by swooping in).
I've jumped down to 80 square feet and got superb lift but I'd hate to have to sink that canopy in.
What do you have against large canopies anyway? Give me the negatives (besides pack volume and slightly longer deployments during sub terminal).
P.S People are working on better performing semi/full ellipticals for BASE. Time will tell.
Added on Date: 10:15:32 1/11/99
Name: Rx
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
I am glad to see that I finally found the way
to bring up a positive/constructive
dialog on this board...
Thanks for bitting the hook
All will learn from this
Rx
Added on Date: 11:33:47 1/11/99
Name: Bjorn Kjetil Krohn
E-Mail: bjorn.kjetil.krohn@online.no
Subject: Re: Photographs
Body of Message:
: We are a publishing company in South Africa and require photographs of the following base sites (can anyone help ):
: 1) El Capitan
: 2) Angel Falls
: 3) Sears Tower
: 4) Petronis Towers
: 5) World Trade Centre
: 6) Sotano de las Galondrinas
: 7) Trollveggen - Norway
I have some basephotographs from Trollveggen.
: 8) New River Gorge Bridge
Added on Date: 12:22:19 1/11/99
Name: Walt
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
: : Has anyone jumped a building lower than 140' and not broken anything??? (Yes, static-line or Direct Bag)
: I've jumped a 5' doghouse a couple dozen times.
: Unfortunately i did break a bone that was in
: a doggie's bowl :-(
: bsbd!
: Yuri.
Nice pic, but it's a 250' bridge!
Walt
Added on Date: 12:29:10 1/11/99
Name: slim
E-Mail: slim9@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
I remember that you naughty boys! Wasn't that NSPC during the State champs?
Slim - Jellybean 68
Added on Date: 12:40:23 1/11/99
Name: Mick Knutson
E-Mail: mknutson@websolution.com
Subject: Oregonians have come through - AGAIN!
Body of Message:
I just wanted to say thaks to these local for being patient with my work schedule and throwing me off on sweet cliff!
Sunset off the Point looking at some COOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL visuals and no Fog to speak of!
Sunday over the edge could not be better!
THANKS FOR ALL THE HOSPITALITY!
BTW. Slim, what the HELL spurred a double off here? I could see a single but a double? Big KUHUNAS!!!!!
Link: The BASE FAQ
Added on Date: 13:05:01 1/11/99
Name: bps
E-Mail: sky_guy_ca@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Engineers-live chat
Body of Message:
Hi Bazil -
Count me in.
I've always wanted more knowledge on the effects of radiation while climbing. THANKS for all of the research and effort your putting into it!!!
C-ya!
Bryan
Added on Date: 13:38:38 1/11/99
Name: Sascha Radusch
E-Mail: sradusch@hsr.ch
Subject: Re: Base Rig for sale
Body of Message:
still selling a rig??
if yes please mail me some info about it....
looking foreward to hear from you
best regards,
Sascha
Added on Date: 14:30:53 1/11/99
Name: Yuri
E-Mail: base416@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Canopy size for me.
Body of Message:
: What do you have against large canopies anyway? Give me the negatives (besides pack volume and slightly longer deployments during sub terminal).
I agree with you in general, but will give a
negative example to balance the chart:
A tower surrounded by trees on a windy day/night
(a very common scenario in US). You either make
it back to the tower base or land in the woods.
Just to make the point that size, like everything
else in BASE, has to be "just right". It's probably
better to err on a bigger size, but "get a tandem
canopy" may not be the best advise.
Funny enough, 220s have landed me nicely on half a
thousand occasions, but the only time i overshot LZ
was under 252 ;-) I'm 150lb, though.
bsbd!
Yuri.
Link: Yo !
Image: Click for IMAGE
Added on Date: 14:43:32 1/11/99
Name: space
E-Mail: base283@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
: : : Has anyone jumped a building lower than 140' and not broken anything??? (Yes, static-line or Direct Bag)
: : I've jumped a 5' doghouse a couple dozen times.
: : Unfortunately i did break a bone that was in
: : a doggie's bowl :-(
: : bsbd!
: : Yuri.
: Nice pic, but it's a 250' bridge!
: Walt
come see me walt,
space
Added on Date: 15:36:00 1/11/99
Name: Ali Katt
E-Mail: basejunkie@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Engineers-live chat
Body of Message:
I for one would enjoy this discussion.However as there are two schools of thought on the subject(those who work/flak for companies and make public denials that their industry has any risk,because of possible law suits and those who have reseached the subject as inpartial scientist or as family of those who had prolonged exposure to EMR,then came down with some medical/cancer problem).I remember telling my fellow BASE'rs in the early 1980's about what I had read and getting responces that the writings were alarmist.So by all means,please put it together,I look forward to it! ,Da Cat
Added on Date: 16:29:58 1/11/99
Name: Ali Katt
E-Mail: basejunkie@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: Fox vs Mojo vs Raven
Body of Message:
Space, Raven has a high aspect ratio? Isn't it very close to Mojo/fox,around 2.1 or so? No biggie,just thinking out load.
Added on Date: 16:52:47 1/11/99
Name: Ali Katt
E-Mail: basejunkie@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: Just what we have been lookin' for !?
Body of Message:
: : I'd like to draw your attention to:
True if you want to "see" the Suuntousa-Vector you provide a nice picture and to be fair I haven't visited your watch site for a while.I was just trying o get the info. out right after seeing it and speaking to a "cutting-edge" climber who was stoked by his experience with it,to say the least he totally RAVED about it! Also 'Rock+Ice' is The source for all things climbing.
Added on Date: 17:07:52 1/11/99
Name: Marty...The other Marty
E-Mail: jumper@airmail.net
Subject: Activitiy in NewOrleans ?
Body of Message:
Is there any activity close to New Orleans ? I will be in for
the weekend on business. If anyone wants to get
together.... mail me at jumper@airmail.net
Thanks in Advance
marty
Added on Date: 18:59:53 1/11/99
Name: Harry Uzzle
E-Mail: imbasen@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
: : Has anyone jumped a building lower than 140' and not broken anything??? (Yes, static-line or Direct Bag)
: I've jumped a 5' doghouse a couple dozen times.
: Unfortunately i did break a bone that was in
: a doggie's bowl :-(
: bsbd!
: Yuri.
Why does it not surprise me that the
"Famous Yuri" has some smartass comment???
Harry
Added on Date: 19:20:01 1/11/99
Name: Harry Uzzle
E-Mail: imbasen@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
: The lowest indoor BASE Jump in the world, 102ft from the Whispering Gallery, Saint Paul's Cathedral, London, GB.
: Jumped by BASE#230
: Deployment method: Buddy
Base#230 has some Brass Balls. How was the landing? Was there enough time to flare??? I wouldn't think so but,,,never hurts to ask. Only hurts to land an unpressurized canopy. ha ha
Harry
Added on Date: 19:28:34 1/11/99
Name: Anxious
E-Mail:
Subject: Days are numbered
Body of Message:
4 days to the dead line
What's the latest on the # ?
Will IBF rule ?
Anx
Added on Date: 20:05:00 1/11/99
Name: Yuri
E-Mail: base416@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
: Why does it not surprise me that the
: "Famous Yuri" has some smartass comment???
Probably because a sense of humor is a rare
find this days ;-)
Actually, there's a serious note in my post, if
you cared enough to see it: we have had a lengthy
discussion about ultra-low and "lowest" jumps
here some time ago. I just want to remind about
futility of this subject ;-)
bsbd!
Yuri.
Link: Yo !
Image: Click for IMAGE
Added on Date: 21:37:06 1/11/99
Name: Bazil
E-Mail: bazair2air@pcisys.net
Subject: Live Chat-It's a Go!
Body of Message:
Thanks to all for your replies. We definitely have
plenty for a live chat session. (my email box is full)
I will now coordinate with the engineers and nail down a date.
We are tentatively shooting for the last week in Jan. The address for
the Tower and Antenna Information web page will also be available at that time.
As it stands now, joining in on this "one sided" chat will be;
Broadcast Engineer: Qualified in VHF/UHF/FM/AM
Microwave Engineer: Qualified in Microwave Transmit/Receive Systems with a working
knowledge of several other systems.
PCS/Cellular: Not an engineer however, one of the most technically knowledgable people
I know. He sweeps and approves/disapproves newly constructed PCS sites and has a keen
working knowledge of Microwave and several other systems.
Myself: 20 years in the Telecommunications biz. I took a lot of time off during that
period to persue adventure but, I will try to answer any questions you
may have about setting the clock on your VCR.
I will post info here and also do a BASE Mailer as soon as I have an update.
Have fun,
Bazil
Added on Date: 21:43:21 1/11/99
Name: Ali Katt
E-Mail: basejunkie@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Live Chat-It's a Go!
Body of Message:
Go on wit yo badd self !
Added on Date: 22:23:06 1/11/99
Name: Mikael BASE
E-Mail:
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
: Why does it not surprise me that the
: "Famous Yuri" has some smartass comment???
: Harry
Yuri's got a point. At best, you walk away feeling "guilty", second best you lose work days, jump days, freedom, worst your ONLY life has ended. Yup, that means no more jumpin, no more poon-tang, no more nuthin'.
But on the bright side, Viagra does help paraplegics immensely. :-)
Added on Date: 23:36:17 1/11/99
Name: Harry Uzzle
E-Mail: imbasen@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ultra-Low building jumps.
Body of Message:
: : Why does it not surprise me that the
: : "Famous Yuri" has some smartass comment???
: Probably because a sense of humor is a rare
: find this days ;-)
: Actually, there's a serious note in my post, if
: you cared enough to see it: we have had a lengthy
: discussion about ultra-low and "lowest" jumps
: here some time ago. I just want to remind about
: futility of this subject ;-)
: bsbd!
: Yuri.
I wasn't "fortunate" enough to catch that one,
and I don't think that this is a useless subject for everyone.
Harry
Added on Date: 23:36:48 1/11/99
Name: Bazil
E-Mail: bazair2air@pcisys.net
Subject: Re: Re: Live Chat-It's a Go!
Body of Message:
Thanks Ali, Every response I have received so far
has been extremely positive. This helps, I can now
focus exclusively on the project.
Have fun,
Bazil
Added on Date: 23:47:24 1/11/99
Name: IBF
E-Mail: mknutson@websolution.com
Subject: Re: Days are numbered
Body of Message:
Mick is coordinating information he has received
regarding the BASE# situation and all is going according
to plan.
If you have not sent the information regarding your
BASE# or request to receive a BASE#:
Please send to:
Subject: BASE# Requested or BASE# Info
mknutson@websolution.com
or snail mail to:
IBF
PO Box 603
Tahoe City, California USA 96145
The new IBF Certificate
