Jesus(statue) is not a Virgin anymore!

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Good call Nick. I think you're right also. I looked at the photo in the mirror and it is the right arm he is jumping off in the mirror. Thanks for the info Nick. Clears up some confusion.

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The negative was not flopped by accident but on purpose for composition purposes. The picture on the article I saw was on the right side of the page and compositionally, it looks dumb to have your subject looking off the page. The print media does this all the time, which is a problem when you do it to Cindy Crawford or an M-16 or other objects that are _not_ mirror images, but which goes unnoticed almost all the time by almost everybody. My favorite memory of neg swapping came with the obituary of a long-time family friend, who'd lost his left arm in a mining accident many years before. Well, all that time we'd known him and it turns out, according to the newspaper picture, that it was his _right_ arm that was missing and we were all apparently dyslexic for all those years.

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The link you included in your message doesn't work.

The right link is:

http://www.hardcore-sport.com

(without the "s" in sports...)

C-ya,
Robert

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You could be right. However, printing a negative emulsion side up should, I believe, never be used as a substitute for composition. Especially when documenting important events like the Jesus Jump. (There's history to consider). If the photo draws your eyes off the page in the wrong direction, there are creative ways around it, if you are creative enough.

Your family friend illustrates the point. If a hundred years from now someone sees that photo they will assume he did indeed lose his right arm, which could flaw any study on people who lose their arms in mining accidents. When a manufacturer of mining equipment modifies his equipment based on that study, we could lose whole slews of left arms based on bad data.

Geez, what kind of journalist are you . . .

Anyway, welcome back.

Nick
BR

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After 15 years as a photo-journalist for a Philly suburb newspaper, all I can say is this:
If I had a nickel for every time one of my photos was flopped, I'd be rich.

In school, we were taught (more like drilled into our heads) that we are to record history accurately, not tamper with it. No "fudging", and under no circumstances EVER flop a photo to accommodate a poor page layout. FIX THE PAGE!

But in the real world, you just can't argue with an editor that's on a deadline. And, flopping wasn't the only thing. I can't even tell you how many times a ball was "moved" closer to the bat or the basket to make it fit the hole!! With advances in photo software, retouching is easier and better. It wouldn't surprise me if some tabloid moved Jesus' eyes to watch Space

Then there are the ones who just don't know enough about their subject matter to know the difference. They're the really dangerous ones who have the power to change the course of history. They don't take page layout OR emulsion into consideration! (Wasn't it an argument over some flopped obituary photo in a German newspaper that started WWII??)

Speaking of knowing your subject matter, it kinda makes you wonder if there really are all those left-handed skydivers we've seen photos of over the years in "P-chuter".

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What the hell is an "enlarger"???

Oh, yeah! NOW I remember! I had one once...
...back in the 80's (when we were switching to square canopies!)...
Does anybody really still use those??
I think I saw an old Bessler at a garage sale in Escondido a few years ago.
Reminded me of my first car: a '73 Chevy Impala I got when my older brother went off to college....
Ah, those were the days!
Damn, if that car could talk, there'd be movies to make!

Guess my age is showing too.