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February 26th, 2002 
February 26th, 2002 How about:
The guy who jumped it twenty years ago, but didn't bother filming it or telling anyone, since he was just doing it for himself.
February 26th, 2002 Heh Heh.....
February 26th, 2002 Red Bull! ;-)
February 26th, 2002 It's that guy from Paraguay, of course. . .
February 26th, 2002 Dont forget the CANADIANS !!!!!:* x( :7
February 26th, 2002 The can o' who??????
February 27th, 2002 :-( .................who cares.................:-(
February 27th, 2002 The beauty of first jump off an object, for me, is not having seen it done before. I've done all my groundwork, the conditions are good, and the only thing that's left is to try it. Like jumping solo, it seems to make it a little more clear that the bottom line is my own judgement, rather than the, "It worked for him, if I do the same it should also work for me," factor.
Michael
February 27th, 2002 ...personal satisfaction and pride, I can fully understand...bein' able to brag in front of a bunch of high school and/or college girls, that's...errr, hmm...HEY! That's cool too! What the hell was I thinkin'... :-(
February 27th, 2002 How come no one is voting for "first person to land"?
Did this poll arise as the result of a friendly competition with a low pulling mate (perhaps one who left the object second, but landed first)?
February 27th, 2002 Given the crew I am stuck jumping with, Tom, the idea of a low-pull contest puts my tail firmly between my legs. I may be a crazy loon, but I'm no rabid dog and only a rabid dog would get into a pissing contest with racehorse. Or, something like that.
I was just thinking on this subject as I compared BASE to climbing. On sport routes and shorter stuff in general, first ascents are credited to the climber who actually leads the thing - the belayer is generally not mentioned. However, on longer routes, most aid routes, alpine routes, and mountaineering objectives, the entire team that summits the route is generally listed with the "first ascent." Given the teamwork nature of longer stuff, that makes sense to me.
BASE sort of has a little of both. There's teamwork, but still the first person to push off has more unknowns than the second - even if the second leaves only 10 or 20 seconds later.
Anyway, my interest is purely out of curiosity. As in climbing, "first jump" bragging rights in BASE are worth the paper they are generally not printed on. It makes me proud to open a new object as there is creativity, hard work, and risk-taking involved for the most part. Also, others often then have access and can enjoy it later. But it's not like it is a massive ego thing, just something fun to think about and a bit of motivation to go out and scope new stuff. Mostly, just fun.
Which reminds me of an old comment by climber Todd Skinner. He said he "climbed new routes just like a male dog pisses on fire hydrants, so I can leave my mark anywhere I go." I love it!
In climbing, the person who "opens" the line gets to name it, and for a while in the late '80s names got quite pointed, almost like weapons. Thankfully, that's died down a bit in recent years. Still, naming stuff is fun - it is a habit I'm trying to encourage in BASE as climbing names are often quite creative and allow the climber a memory reference for a route or boulder problem. Easier than "that building in that city with the funny exit and trick landing area."
Peace,
D-d0g
ddog@wrinko.com
www.wrinko.com
February 27th, 2002 Climbing name conventions only work for some BASE jumps. Who's going to rename the Golden Gate Bridge, "Wet Splash" after their landing? It's always going to be the Golden Gate.
I think that the Moab area is pretty much following the climbing convention on names, with the exception of a few "already named" formations, and some "pre-historic" BASE names like "Wall Street" (think them as akin to climbing route names like "Northwest Direct").
Having "route names" (actually site names) can also help to protect the anonymity of the sites. In fact, some have been adopted for precisely that reason, not by the first jumper, but by later groups (see the "Jolly Green Giant").
--Tom Aiello
tbaiello@ucdavis.edu
February 28th, 2002 okay so while we're on the subject, I was pluggin some coordinates into the new GPS and realized that I'm unaware of some exit point names of places that I know/think are open and being jumped in candyland canyon. In the included graphic, I've placed points where I think people are jumping or places that I want to check out/jump next week.
These are listed as 'unknown x'. Can someone help me fill in the blanks? sorry for the 82 k inline image if you have a small pipe.
Also, if anyone has any beta on the locations marked 'unknown x' I'd appreciate it.
thanks,
Gardner
Http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/~base311/candland.jpg
February 28th, 2002 Holy criminy! I'm jealous! We have a few nice A's and a wicked cool sled riding hill here in Ohio, but nothing like that! :7 :7
Mike
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