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  1. #1 Gear advisory - broken brake lines 
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    This is a general, informational posting meant to be of use to other jumpers. I am not a rigger, and not a particularly experienced BASE jumper either. Take this with a grain of salt, but I felt it would be best to share what I know in any case.

    In the last 4 months I have broken two brake (i.e. control) lines while jumping slider down (one left, one right). The first break occurred after approximately 50 jumps on that set of brake lines. The second break, on new brake line sets ordered from the manufacturer and installed properly, occurred after less than 30 jumps. Nearly all of these jumps were slider down.

    I set my toggles properly, and I am jumping properly-tuned brake settings as confirmed by several highly experienced jumpers. I set my tailgate on all jumps, and pack in a standard manner. In each break, the lines started to show fraying at the deep brake setting, but not enough fraying that myself or other jumpers felt that a break was iminent. Still, there was this warning in both cases.

    Many of my jumps are slider down 2.5-3.8 second delays. Manufacturers recommend that one not exceed 3 seconds slider down, so a substantial minority of jumps on these brake lines were of a type that is specifically recommended against.

    Finally, I am jumping a Mojo 280 with a custom container. The Mojo has about 125 jumps in total on it, with about 75 of those jumps during my ownership. The other lines on the canopy are not showing excess wear, nor are the tabs or reinforcements. The canopy has never been landed in water (trees and rocks and blackberries and talus aznd bushes, yes, but no water). The brake lines are standard, red Dacron.

    My birthday suit weight is just over 220 pounds, an estimated exit weight of 245 pounds. I am NOT fat - I am just big-boned ;-)

    Hypotheses:

    1. Not many BASE jumpers weigh what I do and are routinely taking 3+ second slider-down delays. Thus, I am exposing a weak link in the gear chain through my jumping.

    2. The standard rigging for brake settings creates an obvious stress point where the riser loop cuts into the "V" made by the finger-trapped (usually white) bit of line that creates the brake loop.

    Solution:

    I have now gone to what is sometimes called "captive loop" brake settings for my deep brake settings. These new brake lines were rigged by an experienced jumper for me (thanks DW!), and I now have 20+ jumps on them with no material signs of wear showing. Manufacturers will make these brake lines for you, either with your new canopy or as replacements, if you ask. There are no known material downsides to jumping this form of brake line, though they do take more time to construct initially and they involve eight separate finger-trapped loops and the required bar tacking of same. Some have speculated on a minor 'bumping' caused by these deep settings while steering and flaring slider-up. I have tested this and not found it to be material, or detrimental to slider-up canopy control. I do not know of anyone who has found otherwise based on firsthand experience, nor do I know of any incidents of steering line hangup slider-up caused by captive loop deep brake settings.

    Blowing brake lines during deep (3-4 second) slider-down jumps is an. . . interesting experience. As soon as the line blows (which happens with an audible 'pop') the canopy loads highly asymmetrically during final pressurization, causing a rapid spinning malfunction. The response required to control the malfunction is immediate rear riser input and/or de-toggling of the non-broken toggle and then riser correction. With an unvented canopy, pure rear toggle input to correct a broken brake line will likely result in partial canopy collapse and inability to steer and fly until re-inflation occurrs. Minimum off-heading induced by a broken brake line in this type of scenario is 90 degrees with immediate correct response procedures, in my experience.

    Landing is done via rear riser input.

    If you are a heavier jumper and you are routinely taking deep slider down jumps, you will likely break your standard brake lines in due course. They will show initial wear and torn strands, and when you see this you are nearing the likely breaking point. If you ignore this, you will likely be faced with a serious malfunction that could kill you. Both of my breaks occurred on Es (cliffs, not pills), both moderately underhung at this delay. I was fortunate to respond quickly enough in order to avoid serious injury or death.

    I do not view this as a gear inadequacy on the part of manufacturers - they specifically tell us not to take slider down jumps past 3 seconds. Rather, I feel that larger bodyweight jumpers taking deep slider down jumps are using standard gear in a non-approved manner. I now believe that the "captive loop" mod is a much safer setup for jumpers doing this type of jumping.

    Since these incidents, I have heard of a number of experienced jumpers that routinely jump captive loop brake settings, simply as a precaution. This makes sense to me now!

    As to the above, standard caveats apply: I don't know what I am doing, so don't do what I do. Some assembly required. Your mileage may vary. Objects in mirror are weirder than they appear. Do not remove this label under penalty of law.

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  2. #2 RE: Gear advisory - broken brake li 
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    Can you describe the "captive loop" settings a little more? I've never heard this term before. Thanks!

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  3. #3 RE: Gear advisory - broken brake li 
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    What kind of risers/toggles are you using? WHen I used pin toggles, I used to go through brake settings every 30 jumps. I now use BR's LRT's and each of my canopy's has over 100 jumps with no wear on the lines.
    You can also pack the toggles so that it wears on the setting and not the actual line. That way, it's cheaper and easier(always better no matter what situation in life) to fix the problem. IE. replace the setting and not the entire line.
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  4. #4 RE: Gear advisory - broken brake li 
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    LRT riser configuration. We tried a number of ways to move over wear to the setting and not the brake line, to no avail. In the end, the load in the LRT system on canopy pressurization really falls into the "Y" created between the setting and the brake line, above the bottom bar tack. It was here that the loop was effectively cutting into the junction, and eventually weakening the line enough to cause it to snap completely during deployment.

    I'd do a really, really crappy job of explaining the captive loop setup in words, so I am not even going to try. It is also likely there is another phrase for it that I don't know about. In any case, if you are interested in it have a qualified rigger or gear manufacturer explain it, or I can upload a digital photo of it. I could not visualize it until I saw it done and then it was like "oh, yeah, now I get it."

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    Is this an LRT setup? My brake settings started wearing rapidly from the friction during extraction between the toggle and the brake setting. I applied some liquid silicone and it seems to have settled the wear problem down a bit.
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  6. #6 RE: Gear advisory - broken brake li 
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    Holy #####!

    That is what was happening to mine in both deep and shallow settings. I just got new brake lines for my Fox 245 after about 40 slider down jumps and 40 slider up jumps.
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  7. #7 RE: Gear advisory - broken brake li 
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    Yes, LRT and the toggles were waxed to prevent excess friction.

    I agree that some form of anti-friction is good for LRT systems even though I do not believe this was a factor in my brake line problems - I actually also broke the riser loop in the LRT system on another jump, which was just as bad as the broken brake lines but that is a whole different story with different gear issues.

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  8. #8 RE: Gear advisory - broken brake li 
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    D-dog,
    The accelerated wear you are describing is common with BASE gear. We have used the "so-called" LRT system for over 12 years on our BASE risers and there are several tricks to it's manufacture and use that will minimize this wear.
    However, by it's very nature it will cause excessive wear on the deployment brake setting. Pin style toggles are significantly worse in this regard because of the pin's small diameter.

    When you combine this tendancy with high loads, you get noticably fast wear. Small people who limit their FF delays get much longer wear.

    I would like to go on record and say that it is NOT safe to try and get "one more jump" from a steering sytem that is showing visbile wear. The lower steering lines are 900# Dacron. The style of brake setting that is common places a shear load on only 50% of the line carriers (read: 450#). If these begin failing you are relying on as little as 25% of the lines intended strength -get the picture.

    We have tried numerous fixes for this problem including a variety of materials and methods. The Hang Man's loop which is what I think you are refering to with the "captive loop" approach has some draw backs. Most notably, beyond manufacture hassles and lack of adjustability is the potential hang-up in the guide ring when jumping slider-up. This hang up is not permanent but it is disconcerting.

    We presently are using a proprietary brake setting arrangement that has withstood immense abuse both in-house during controled testing and in the field under some large and abusive jumpers.

    It does cost a bit more, but does not present any of the negatives associated with the hang-man's loop approach.

    We are not offering this for general consumption yet but If you are a big guy that chronically finds yourself with compromised steering lines, give us a call and we can set you up.


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  9. #9 RE: Gear advisory - broken brake li 
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    I'm a rigger, but have never heard of this. Can you upload a photo? Thanks!

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  10. #10 RE: Gear advisory - broken brake li 
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    I Have had the same problem with the wear on my deep brake settings. It is funny that you should bring this up. Last week, a friend of mine went down to CR for a private FJC. I had him pick me up some extra brake line and ask Adam about doing a double finger trap for the deep brake setting. He mentioned the problem of the deep brake setting getting hung up on the guide rings on the risers(when slider up). My Question is this-
    When slider-up, do the brakes have to be run through the guide rings? I understand the importants of runing them through the slider, but why not bypass the guide rings and set your brakes just as you do slider down?
    -TODD

    Adam F.- I would like to hear your response. You can e-mail me at tvhigley@yahoo.com
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  11. #11 Danger! 
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    Hi Todd,

    >Question is this-
    >When slider-up, do the brakes have to be run
    >through the guide rings? I understand the
    >importants of runing them through the slider,
    >but why not bypass the guide rings and set your
    >brakes just as you do slider down?

    If you did this, the possibility would exist that:

    1) A toggle could blow on opening. I've seen this happen as a result of worn velcro, poor toggle design, and sheer random black death factor.

    2) The toggle and steering line would fly up and wrap the slider.

    3) The entangled slider would not descend.

    4) The jumper, with a stuck slider, would streamer into the ground quite hard.

    Obviously, this would result in either the fast ride in the white bus with the flashing lights, or the longer, slower ride, in the long black station wagon.

    I can think of at least one recent fatality (see #50 on "The List") which was reportedly caused by this rigging error.

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  12. #12 RE: Danger! 
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    Point well taken!!
    Although the situation would be extremely rare, I will never configure my brakes in that fashion.

    I understand you will be in the Seattle area in June, I hope your up for some hiking, we have some nice back-country stuff.
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  13. #13 Thanks! 
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    I really appreciate your comments, Adam - thanks for sharing them with us. I will give you a call sometime and talk about your super-trick system.

    For now, the "Hangman's Loop" seems to be holding up to some serious pounding so we'll see how that progresses.

    I also agree that jumping brake lines with visible wear is a really bad idea. "Just one more jump" is asking for trouble, and I was surprised at how little wear showed before the lines snapped completely.

    As to the 'bump' issue with the Hangman slider up, I have only done three slider up jumps on the new setup. The first one, I could feel the little 'bump' when the setting came through the slider during steering. The second and third ones, I could not even feel the bump. I think the settings flatten out a bit after being loaded, and the the 'bump' all but goes away. But that's only three jumps so obviously my data are too limited to be generally applicable.

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  14. #14 Hangman's loop 
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    Gidday Doug

    I went to the hangman's loop slider down quite along time ago. It was the only brake setting that could take openings after quads slider down. Mind you I rigged the whole canopy to jumping specifically slider down.

    As you gain more sets of gear I found it wise to tailor rigs to various styles of jumping. There was a clear difference between slider up - multi, pin closed, smaller PC, and shallow brake settings. And slider down - tailgate, velcro closed, vented, hangmans loop brake settings, Big PC, larger BOC pocket, bridle loop for sliding my tape through on SL's.

    This was how I avoided many problems by tailoring my gear towards certain jumps. Just an idea which is probably obvious as many of us know what rig we will use for what sort of object. But when purchasing it can be prudent to give yourself equipment that covers a wide range of jumping.

    Luv SLIM
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  15. #15 loop 
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    Hangmen´s loop, Captive loop, Interlocking loops, microline technique, are all names for this, looping.
    I had one Hang during a flare once when it was going thru the slider, normally it was just bumpy.
    It is excellent for slider down/off jumps, but the advantage ends there.
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