I can't pack, will you pack for me?

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All the BS put aside on how certain Norcal jumpers are burning sites, what is more important is the lack of respect for the sport these specific individuals have.

One of the jumpers, who claims to be a base jumper (poser), can not pack his own parachute, base or skydiving. He does not even know what kind of gear he has, even though he owns two rigs.
Now in order for him to jump, he has to have the other certain Norcal jumpers (posers) pack it for him. On top of all this, Poser#1 needs to jump in daylight, so he can get filmed for his new movie, or maybe because he does not have the balls or the desire to learn the skills to jump in low/no light (pussie).

If people do not know their A-lines from D-lines, how do they expect to save their own life when a malfunction happens? and yes, Poser#1, IT WILL HAPPEN. Who you gonna blame when you go in with a MAL? your packer?

As for your packers, what the f(ck are you thinking? you think you will get fame and fortune packing for an idiot?
How can you call yourselves jumpers, if you cannot even teach the very basic rules - SURVIVAL SKILLS - of our sport?

Granted you guys are all sick athletes, but when it comes down to the most serious sport of them all, you show a total lack of respect that some day will come back and bite you in the ass.

As for you POSER#1, learn how to pack, it will save your life someday.


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[guest]

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!

I wasn't going to say it, I'm glad someone did!

But all those lines look the same, does any company colr code them? You know, the pink line goes next to the green line.....tailgate....is that where I can put my boots on without getting my feet dirty...

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

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[guest]

I hear poser #1 has got one heck of a perrty mouth. Can you squeel like a piggy boy? What do the big dogs pack when all the rigs are done? Is that fudge I smell? Lets see some of that video.

[guest]

c'mon, name some names, I thought I knew who it was till you said something about packing. as far as I know RK knows how to pack so it can't be him. if we can't embarass them by name for a couple days they will never learn.

[guest]

Read the other thread. I embarrased myself.

[guest]

You thought it was me?? Aw, shucks.

Let's see, that must mean I was on the cover of Skydiving, wow! I must have missed that issue, could you send me your copy so I can give it to my mum? Oh, wait, you probably don't get magazines, seeing as how you can't read the MAIN POINTS IN THE THREAD. But if you know anyone that has a copy, could you let me know? Does my ass look big in the photo?
I could go ahead a post your initials, seeing as how mine already got thrown around, but I think I'll just feel sorry for you as I jump all over Europe for the next 2 months. Let's just say, I owe you one.

So for the record (pun intended), the Mince Division does not burn sites. We are like owls who hunt at night, we go in, get our prey, and get out. Silent, invisible, deadly. The only people who know we have been there, are those we want to know.
(I know, the owl comment is sort of odd, picture big, tough, cool sort of owls.)

Has anyone ever chucked a Garden Gnome off an object as a W.D.I.? If you have not, you are really missing something. The little red hat is so cute, and the way they happily wave on the way down.....

RK

[guest]

I drop a dump once off of a bridge. Does that count?

[guest]

hey man, relax, I formally renounce my throwing about of your initials. WTF is Mince Division?

needless to say I am too chicken-sh1t to post MY initials, lest you run into me at some object the next time I am in Nor Cal and chuck me off rig-less. As for Europe, I may see you there, if I can get additional time off and find a dog-sitter.

Sorry for the false accusation.

[guest]

I think everyone is missing the point -

HOW CAN YOU CALL YOURSELF A BASE JUMPER WITHOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL KNOWLEDGE OF KNOWING THE BASICS OF YOUR PARACHUTE?

[guest]

I thought all that needed to be said was said in the other thread. But you dorks managed to prove me wrong last night when I found your empty Gatorade bottle on top of the object. What gives? If nothing else, just throw it down on the ground. When exactly did you losers stop thinking?
Seriously, the four of you should stay home this weekend and kick the ##### out of each other.
Maybe designate poser #1 as the trash packer until he/she learns to rig.

[guest]

Ok girls, all this banter is great reading...but...the facts have NOT been presented as they truly happened. Even good ol' Tom at home has not stated the whole truth. (Tom, you know who I am , call me, or maybe return the calls you haven't if you want to get any deeper.) This board is not the place for detailed disscussions about sites, so unless you people want the entire truth, (going back a while) you should stop posting small bits that make you look good and make everyone else look like sh1t. Folks reading this may think certain people are above reproach, and we all know, telling the truth isn't a strong point of many of these posters, present company included given the situation. This may be the wrong thread to post on, but they are both aplicable to the situation. And NO- Nor Cal is NOT burning, thank you.

As for the post in question about "if you were cool", I believe it was refering to the fact that guys many folks thought they would like to jump with, showed no class in the blatent way they spat on a great object. So, please get over the high and mighty attitude. As I remember, I was fed a line of crap not too long ago about a certain object, and another about certain access. So my point here is, don't start calling people childish or immature. Seems to me some of the blatent lies I have been fed are pretty freakin childish and immature.
SO- the whole pot, kettle, black thing comes back around to bite us all in the ass. And I don't have much ass to bite...

Let's stick to the real topic; Please respect all Nor Cal sites and they will stay open. Lack of respect = lack of objects. It's as simple as that.

RK

Oh, and one more thing....hey Yex, seems you think some jumpers don't "deserve" certain access. I can tell you that I humped up over 38,000 feet of ladder in the last year. How bout you? That's what I thought.
Uh oh, now are you gonna get all ##### angry at me???

:'( :'( :'( &-)

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Not intended like that at all. The people that have approached me are just here for a free ride which isn't mine to give or ever was. I wasn't there for whatever happened. I know that you guys went through almost the same situation to get in. Would like it if there was a way to keep us all on the same page so as not to push it too far.

joelbroadbent@hotmail.com

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My point exactly.Jumpers who I had heard about and had thought would jump with will be the last I'll ever call.And as for YEX some fu(ken lookout.You're the only lookout in history to be told by a crusty old homeowner owner to piss off.Real fu(ken stealthy.As for more time spent as lookout than climbing well my 56000 ft of climbing up should speak for itself.Not to mention the number of times I've climbedup to 600 ft and then downclimbed because the conditions sucked a$$.As for you Tom A little honesty goes a long fu(ken way as we all found out recently ....RIGHT???Don't for a second think that the invites are in the mail for the "Summer of love Boogie in Nor Cal"Coz they aint!!!If you want to talk about recent events than bring it on.Maybe you should educate yourself before you hammer us for being immature and girlish.There is a lot you don't know and that may come as a surprise but communication goes both ways mate.So when you feel up to it give us a call.Everyone else will be gone but I'll still be here for another 3 weeks.What we witnessed would have put you over the edge seeing as you risked so many terror filled nights gaining access.You wouldn't be so accepting of the fact that sites get burned on a regular basis or so forgiving.The days of innocence are long gone my friend.The fact that localism in this sport is starting to rear it's ugly head as it has done in the surfing world is just something that everyone is going to have to deal with.RESPECT is the issue here not who has keys and who doesn't.So I stand my ground.I apologise for nothing.I have been playing the most basic of rules for the area as have the rest of the crew which is be invisible.Well as invisible as you can.Jumping with no moon light in the dead of night is still jumping.
As for the trash at the top is it too much to expect you to pick up after yourselves or do you (unts live in a fu(ken pigsty.Pack you trash.It's easy.
MS

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That night was not right and yes I let my guard down.

Ms you have my respect more that you will ever know. Learning and setting expamples is important to me. I am learning teach me...It is hard to make a blanket statement and not have everyone take it personally. My comment was in no way sent to the direction of MS. It is bigger than me or you.

[imported_Tom Aiello]

Dude,

I had no idea you were trying to reach me. I'll call you.

--Tom Aiello
tbaiello@mac.com