Bridge Pillar

[guest]

This morning another jumper and I flicked a 350' pillar (A bridge abutment) below a popular bridge. Both of our jumps went real well. Our question is, is this classified as a Span or a Antenna

[guest]

Sounds like it qualifies as a cool jump and you guys had a good time. Why bother trying to stuff it into a catagory? It's just a fixed object jump.

BASE has a deserved illegal stigma. The sooner we shed that acronym the sooner we will be legally "backcountry parachuting".

cheers

[guest]

Exactly, it's not all BASE.

Fixed Object Jumping.

Building
Antenna
Span
Earth

Dam
Tram
Gondola
Statue
Smokestack
Power Tower
Windmill
Crane

Pillar is a pillar.

There's more stuff out there too, can't all be stuffed into BASE.
And while "backcountry parachuting" is fine in the boondocks,
it does not fit into "city" situations, where there's a lot of objects.

[crwper]

"P" for Pillar, dude! You're one step closer to having the whole alphabet!!

Michael

[guest]

What about Heli's?

from low altitude?

H is for Helicopter in my book

[guest]

That is okay for your SKYDIVING logbook,
but listen-hear dude, this is not skydiving.

[guest]

It's definetly a "A", take a minute to look at the old Book of BASE, The time when the first 4 BASE Jumpers (BASE# 1, 2,3,4,) all sat down one night (in Houston Texas) and decided that this would be called "BASE Jumping"." Not "TEBB Jumping". ......Tower, Earth, Building, Bridge. ... Jean Boenish BASE # 3 has that Book if you care to take a look.

[guest]

That is just plain silly.
How can a cement pillar get to be an Antenna?
I know it is a tough concept for you to follow, old man,
but maybe the pioneers didn't have all the answers.
And just because "they" all sat down and "decided",
that is not the end-all of it, not for me anyway.

[space]

Yo,
Most Europeran antennaes are stone pillars young one. The pioneers didn´t have all the answers, they had the only answers as no one had tried to categorize this before. Nick D has the most accurate description IMHO. ask him, he is also purveyor of the "list". Sorry, no flame intended young boy. I only agree with your last sentence.
take care,
space

[guest]

Okay, let me rephrase, please.
How can a cement pillar,
which supports a steel bridge,
get to be an Antenna?

[guest]

I think I'll have to go with this new alphabet jumping concept. Hell, why not just call it "Alphabet Jumping."
It will always be base jumping because most things do fall into B. A. S. and E. though. Also the word base just plain sounds cool! It makes you think bottom and low and deep, dark, ninja stuff!
Someone should start a list for all the potential objects for each letter of the alphabet.

[imported_Tom Aiello]

Didn't the original definitions go two ways?

I seem to recall two sets of definitions, one geometric and one wind-induced.

Geometrically,

A solid shape is a "B",
A vertical line is an "A",
A horizontal line is an "S",
A plane is an "E",

so your pillar is an "A".

but, using the wind definitions;

The wind blows around a "B",
The wind blows through an "A",
The wind blows under an "S",
The wind blows over an "E",

so your pillar is a "B".

Didn't the USBA (the inheritors of the original "category judge" mantle, if there is one) rule that a dam was a "B" a while back (which follows neither of those systems, which would likely make a dam an E, in either case)?

In my log book, I recorded the pillars of our big span as additional "exit points" for that same object. On the other hand, they do present entirely unique challenges (strike potential, different slider configuration, even a different landing area on one side), so maybe they are separate objects.

I think the only thing we can say for certain is that your pillar was a jump.

And a heck of a lot of fun.

Nice one!

--Tom Aiello
tbaiello@mac.com

[guest]

I'm listening, but in my opinion, any low altitude jump with a single parachute rig is a base jump.
Especially when you are hanging from the skids.

H is still for Heli, dude.

[guest]

See, opinions are like assholes,
everybody has one, yours stinks.

Yo, Old BASE Jumper dude,
you wanna straighten this guy up?

He's trying to have an opinion about some
jump from an aircraft in flight being a BASE jump!!

[guest]

This morning I climbed a "A" 150' on top of a "B" 450' which lets you fall past a 600' "E". What does this count as?