ATT.Chris Stokely and ground lovers

[guest]

I read in ur last post that u said u impacted and should have been dead, could you fill me in on a few details...and anyone else that has gone in and alive to tell the tale....

Pete

PS. Cliff strikes dont count

[guest]

In case you haven't hit one yet, cliffs hurt! They are usually as hard as the ground, if not harder.

Please include cliff strike stories too!

[guest]

Tham B's are hard too!!!!

[guest]

800 antenna. 38" ZP PC. Stowed. Intended to do 4 second delay.

Exited fine. Threw out PC, which had been folded like a skydiving pilot chute. It towed for a couple seconds before deploying. Perfect 180 with a half line twist. Did a stall turn correction using risers. Realized I was going to fly into power lines. Turned again, realized I was going to fly into two sets of barbed wire fences. Turned again, impacted ground at high rate of speed, attempting to do major PLF. Bounced, yelled broken before I hit the ground again. landed on a fire ant nest. broke femur in 6 pieces.

what should have been done: not pack pilot chute like a skydiving pc. not jump experimental trapezoidal slider. not done riser stall turn to get off object. in fact, it would have been better flying under the bottom wire and landing in another section. should have used more flat-like turns.

[guest]

Could you elaborate on how you folded your pc? For stuff 4 seconds and over, I use CRs burrito pack job.

Bridle s-folded and placed on mesh, fold pc in half, then half again, and then bring the ends in (never crossing the center line!) with multiple folds until it is a burroto and ready to be placed into the spandex.

I like the burroti because the it sems to be more secure in the pouch than a mushroom and better for high speed jumps in that regard.

Thanks Chris

[d-dog]

I would strongly recommend against jumping anything but a mushroom (or mushroom derivate) PC pack job on BASE objects. It may not look as neat and streamlined as various "folded" pack jobs, but a few seconds of PC hesitation on many objects and at the delays many of us routinely take is a ticket to the funeral home.

I'm no expert here, but this is one thing I really think is a big point. Your pilot chute doesn't work properly? You are dead. That is pretty simple cause and effect. I've towed incorrectly-packed PCs twice with near catastrophic consequences (yes I learned my lesson and pack mushroom now always), and a Norwegian friend of mine towed a PC nearly into the dirt on a B, though in honestly I don't remember how he packed his PC for that jump. It was stowed, I remember that.

Also recall that the burble gets longer the faster the airspeed. Bigger delays make for larger burbles.

I'd take bad line twists and any form of line-over (franky, any mal with at least some canopy over my head) versus a total PC malfunction, any day. Easy choice to make.

Peace,

D-d0g
ddog@wrinko.com
www.wrinko.com

[guest]

Thank you for yoir thoughts. I noticed the trend has gone to all mushroom in the last year or two and just decided to give up my old fashioned ways and follow your advice.

1 to 2 seconds of hesi could kill!

[guest]

It was the buritto pack for the pc. avoid this method. it too nearly killed a couple other jumpers who use this outdated and dangerous technique.

there are several other good methods that will leave the pilot chute secure and the apex firm for grasping.

[guest]

need to clarify. this accident happened in 1997. i'm ok at the moment.