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  1. #1 Good News on Petronas 
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    Dear BASE Board readers:

    With only 15 days left until the big welcoming party at the hottest club in Kuala Lumpur, the faltering “international championships” of base jumping at the Petronas Twin Towers has confirmed only 20 people worldwide, all but three of them Australian or American – and SkyVenture employee Mark Hewitt isn’t even sure about THEM.

    “Even if you have confirmed already,” Mr. Hewitt pleaded August 9 on the BASE Board,” please confirm again with me, as Robin is trying to scare people off…”

    Actually, I’m just asking people to THINK and ACT RESPONSIBLY, and I am delighted to report that so far, most of the world’s most senior, thoughtful and mature jumpers have in fact thought about it and reached the same rational, responsible, common sense conclusion I have:

    We have to walk away from this one because there wasn’t time or money to do it RIGHT.

    It’s a BASE Jumping 101 decision: When the conditions aren’t right, you don’t do the jump, no matter how cool the object may be.

    Further, it is obvious to almost everyone that the elite-level “world championships” we all designed and supported for 1.5 years has disintegrated into a low-rent “beer demo.”

    For those who weren’t sure how bad it is, SkyVenture employee Dwain Weston removed all doubt when he acknowledged publicly on this Board July 29 that what we have here is “no longer the ideal World Championship as proposed by Robin but a more low-key competition open to anybody who can get there.”

    Now THAT is a professional standard, is it not?

    Despite this open invitation by Mr. Weston and Mr. Hewitt’s August 7 “personal” invitation to “anyone interested,” only a gaggle of their mates MIGHT be going, and that’s IT, which is cause for contented reflection on the overall solid ethical performance of our community (so far) when faced with a big temptation that could have led us into a poor judgment.

    Think about it: Why are slots for seven days of jumping from the world’s tallest and most beautiful building going begging two weeks before it starts?

    Because Robin Heid says it’s a bad idea at this time?

    I don’t think so.

    It’s because BASE Jumping 101 and Event Organization 101 say so. Project Development 101 says so. So do Gut Feeling 101 and any of several other BASIC professional standards of measurement.

    It’s a no-brainer. I had a major cable network producer tell me the other day that, after ten minutes on the phone with Dann Lee, he could tell the Petronas Beer Demo was a complete clusterf**k:

    “You can take six months to do a kick-ass event,” he said, “or four months to do a half-assed event.”

    Or one month to make a colossal mess.

    This producer was simply astonished that Petronas and the government of Malaysia are letting such a high-profile case of obvious poor planning and preparation go on, and for the most obvious and important of reasons:

    “You can get away with a half-assed bake sale," he said, "but not something like this, not where people can die.”

    Not to mention how going forward with this now would be a repeat performance of what happened in Yosemite 21 years ago – the same year secret SkyVenture employee Dwain Weston started kindergarten, and the year before Mark Hewitt even started skydiving.

    I know it’s ancient history for most BASE Board readers, but the bottom line is: We made a colossal mess in Yosemite because nobody was ready for the activity.

    The National Park Service had no idea what to do with us.

    We didn’t know what to do with ourselves.

    The result was a poorly designed NPS management plan and an even worse record of behavior by the jumpers, many of whom were considered “leaders of the sport.”

    The consequences of that result is a prohibition which continues 20 years after the initial opportunity was lost – and actually influences the base politics of several other governments.

    Back then, we had the “Flatbed Ten,” now we have the “Beer Demo 20,” almost all of whom come from Australia and the USA – the two countries who prohibit jumping systemwide in their national parks.

    And, as we saw in Yosemite 20 years ago, the overall maturity level of the group is reflected in that of their alleged leaders. Consider the following BASE Board comments from Beer Demo technical director Weston on July 31: “If some people put as much energy into their jumping as they do into their bitching, they'd be phenomenal jumpers (or at least be invited to Petronas – ha ha).”

    Of even greater concern is the sheer desperation shown by Beer Demo employee Mark Hewitt on August 9: “There is one week left to confirm your slot… and there aren’t many left. Don't let Robin scare you off from the world's largest building... Legal!!! We have 40 jumps budgeted for competitors... Each!!! Don't be Robins' Wussy.”

    Begging for bodies and the event starts in two weeks.

    Compare that state of preparation with Bridge Day 2001:

    Registration closed a month ago, and that’s not until late October.

    And both the West Virginia community and the jumpers have been doing it for years and everyone knows what to expect.

    Nobody’s ready for this.

    The Malaysians aren’t ready for us.

    We are not ready for Malaysia.

    And I’m not talking individual technical skill. At two events in Malaysia so far, the technical ability of the jumpers has been adequate to excellent.

    But neither event was a competition, which is an entirely different animal than a demo or boogie.

    Just as importantly, the amount of jumper misconduct during both the transmillennium jump and KL Tower Day rivaled anything the disrespectful, ignorant, offensive behavior jumpers visited 20 years ago upon the people and wilderness of Yosemite Valley.

    The Malaysians knowledge of us is equal to or even less than what NPS knew about us 20 years ago.

    It is a recipe for disaster. We have this beautiful opportunity to make a quantum jump forward, based on a plan designed to intelligently integrate our activities into Malaysia over a several-year period.

    That plan has been destroyed and the damage has already started. Where once Dann Lee and I had a five-year plan, his new employee Mark Hewitt declared August 9th that “this maybe the only time Petronas is legal, you snooze you lose!”

    Great progress Mr. Hewitt and Mr. Weston have made, and so quickly too!

    What is happening now in Malaysia is nothing of which any of us can be proud. Even SkyVenture’s own employees publicly admit their event is:

    a) not even close to meeting the professional standard upon which the event was supposed to be based (Weston); and
    b) being thrown together for the first time ever at the absolute last possible minute (Hewitt).

    So we still have a little work to do, folks.

    I’m asking for the help of every one of you who exercised maturity and good judgment and declined to participate in this atrocious corruption of the event so many of us worked to create and of which we could all be proud.

    What I’m asking you to do is contact me (robinheid@hotmail.com) and let me know you want to tell Petronas executives and the Malaysian government to shut this thing down NOW before any further damage is done, that we all want to jump their beautiful building but ONLY under the right conditions, and we’ll all work together to develop the kind of professional standard and plan that an extreme sport such as ours demands.

    Write if you want to help, and I’ll send you the email addresses you need to have. If the government and company hear from enough of you, the event will be stopped for sure for this year, and we can take the time to do it right.

    Please also do a little “outreach counseling” to the Beer Demo 20 and the gentlemen who declare themselves to be the leaders and organizers of this leaderless disorganized mess.

    Some thoughtful, mature “guidance” from you all could go a long way toward convincing them to set aside their personal agendas and work with the rest of us for the larger good of the sport.

    Thanks again to so many of you out there who chose principle and the Big Picture over ill-advised and short-sighted conduct, especially those who lost money canceling tickets and lost sleep over missing the chance to jump this incredible building this year.

    Thanks also to those of you who have kept me in so many information loops and offered support and loyalty not just to me but to every one of us who tried for 1.5 years to make a first-class presentation of our sport to the world and won’t settle for anything less.

    Robin Heid
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  2. #2 RE: Good News on Petronas 
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    Robin,

    You DO like to hear yourself go on and on and on and on........on......dont' you????

    Don't your fingers ever get tired of typing out this BS?

    bsbd......
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  3. #3 RE: Good News on Petronas 
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    I agree. Heidi spends all his time looking for attention, taking credit for anything that he chooses was all his doing, and basically trying to make the base world revolve around him. People are smart enough to come to their own conclusions without troublemakers like Heidi telling them what to think, and what to do. Petronas is collapsing because people are tired of heidi, and lee, and the internet wars, and the bother and money at this point. If Heidi isnt trumpeting that we should all have gratitude to him, then he's attacking people, not dealing with the ideas that they present but rather because they use nicknames to post with. Attacking peoples'character rather than the ideas they are advancing is called "fallacious" heidi, take argumentation 101 over again. And yes, once again this Heidi post will become a storm of controversy and endless posts and conflict within the community with fat old Robin Heid sitting back on his 20 jumps a year, smoking his cigar and laughing at orchestrating conflict again. Blackball this guy and you will advance base 20 years. Blackball this guy and Ill never post again. (Advancing Base another 20 years). cya
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  4. #4 Robin in the sky with diamonds 
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    What is motivating you? Money? Recognition? Do you really think this event (even if it went off exactly how you want it) would pave the way to legalized BASE? As more people are exposed to BASE more people are against it and specific laws prohibiting it will be drafted. Hank got off in Denver because there were no laws specifically prohibiting BASE - that will likely change.
    The best thing that could ever happen for BASE would be for society at large to be oblivious of it.
    If you really believe the drivel you've been regurgitating here then I recommend you eat a fist full of shrooms followed by a long walk with a canteen of fruit juice. Its time for a reset.

    If, on the other hand, you dont believe this shite and your drafts are a calculated attempt to manipulate the BASE community then you're underestimating your audience. And I still recommend the srhooms.

    Cheers to the "beer demo crew". Are you guys packed? Are the winds good? Is the landing area clear? Then go for it, you're ready.

    Sanity check
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  5. #5 Hardly 
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    Not even 20 jumps a year for 'mr.' Rob-'em n' Hide.
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  6. #6 RE: Robin in the sky with diamonds 
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    The best thing that could ever happen
    >for BASE would be for society at large
    >to be oblivious to it.

    Dude, you couldn't be more right! The LESS attention that is drawn to the sport, the better for everyone. We don't need superstars; that's for the Mainstream. No matter what anyone does, neither BASE nor skydiving will ever become mainstream, because most people simply think it's nuts. Who are we (a minority) to argue with that premise, anyway? Besides, I like the fact that most people are frightened by it. They should be.
    My point is this: You all know how some people just love to govern. Keep 'em in the dark for as long as we can.
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  7. #7 RE: The Truth about Robin 
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    To all jumpers,

    I have avoided all this politics created by Robin Heid because I do not want to go down to his level. But I think it is only fair not only to SkyVenture Productions but also to all jumpers to know the actual truth about Xtreme Skydive 2001.

    Robin always say that we do not have the time and money to do the championship. How long does it take to plan a championship, 'TEN YEARS'. We planned it for almost 2 years and if that is not enough time, I wonder how long a time Robin Heid need.

    Now on the money issue. We have spent a huge amount of money and we are giving an overall prize money and trophies of RM 100,000. If we have no money, we cannot be spending this amount. All the hotel lodging, food during the championship, transportation is provided free for all participants. Let me know of any other championship that provides all this. The hotel are Concorde Hotel and Ming Court Hotel, walking distance to Petronas with first class service.

    I have a fax from Robin demanding for USD 250,000 for himself. I can send this fax to anybody that need to see this fax. Just write to me at dannlee@hotmail.com. Robin is in for his own monetary gain and not for BASE.

    As for the number of participants. We are the organizers and not Robin. How in the world can Robin say we have only 20 jumpers. SkyVenture did all the footwork, meeting with Petronas, the Malaysia Government and all parties involved to get the championship accepted, approved and confirmed while Robin is back at his desk in LA writing poison letters to everyone and using different names to send all this poison letter. This is the work of people trying to destroy BASE because SkyVenture didn't put up to his blackmailing demand of USD 250,000.

    I assure all jumpers that we have the best of the best coming over cause I screen through all the jumpers with Dwain, Mark and the rest of my technical advisors. We have much more that 20 jumpers but we will limit the jumpers coming over to just 40. Only few slots are left that is why Mr. Mark Hewitt ask you to apply before August 16th cause the slots are close by then. We are asking for the passport numbers again cause I received hundreds of letters and it will save a lot of my time if jumpers submit them again as I have to submit the passport numbers to the imegresen for clearance at the airport and for Petronas to issue the bar coded security card passes.

    Mark Hewitt came over to Malaysia by invitation of SkyVenture Productions. When he arrived, he was still asking for Robin to be back on the championship cause he didn't know our part of the story. Mark then felt used and taken advantage of by Robin after seeing all the facts.

    If Robin interest is in BASE, he would be supporting the championship and not trying to stop or cancel the event. He has no power to stop the championship, that is why he is trying to influence jumpers not to come over.

    SkyVenture Productions can personally guarantee all jumpers that this championship will be the safest and best ever. SkyVenture can guarantee you this because we got more to lose than any jumper if anything happens.

    See you all soon in Kuala Lumpur.

    Regards,
    For SkyVenture Productions

    Dann Lee
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  8. #8 qualifications of participants 
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    How you can garantee that the best are coming to petrons is unknown.
    i have heard of people who are coming who have added loads of jumps to their total and say they are current but they have few jumps 50 or so and have not jumped in the last 12 months. and your "technical directors" dont know them personaly and their 'friends' will back them up through misguided loyalty.
    large numbers of the good jumpers seem to have decided that the walls of europe are the places to be this summer.
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  9. #9 RE: Good News on Petronas 
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    There are good people in the world, and Bad people. The definition of a bad person is simple; someone who tries to manipulate or control other people. Heid has posted so often to easily identify himself, his character, and his motivations; incredible that he feels that the base community is filled with the 'masses', the ignorant, the stupid, and the easily led. Quite the opposite, BASE tends to filter many of these people out. Best of luck with Petronas, anyone going--nice one, guys. Try to put on a good image, but I agree, good ending or bad it makes no difference to BASE, we jump anyways, we continue to jump as we always have. Heid go away, youre not welcome.

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