guy wires on sub 300

[bryguy1224]

Anyone ever jump an "A" sub 300 with guy wires. I found an "A"real close to my house. Its 296' with 3 sets of guy wires. At 100, 200, and andother set just short of the top. It is jumpable from all 3 sides when it comes to landing area. OUt in the middle of a field. All alone. Seems a little to sketchy for me with the guy wires but just seeing what some of you guys think.

Thanks,
Bryan

"Not paying and still gettin it"

[crwper]

Did a 300' guyed A, about a one-second delay with a 48" pc handheld, I think. A stiff tailwind helped carry me over the nearby road, and then I had enough time to pull it over 180 and flare. What feels sketchy about the guy wires? What kind of jumps have you done up to this point?

Michael

[Faber]

i freefall 2 A´s
#1 300ft wire in 100,200 and 300ft
#2 265ft(220ft to treelines/impact)wire in 150 and 250ft

Never had an issue on either of them.On the 300fter i even did an hop n pop and manneged to outfly,and land in the other feild of the weires,that said,that paticular wire were closer to the A than the rest,becours of a nearby road.

Are you thinking offheading?Just dont have them;-)They mess up your flight anywere you jump;o)

Stay Safe

[imported_Mac]

My local is 315ft tri-wire with 3 sets. I have taken delays ranging from go n throws to delays approaching 3 seconds. I have also experienced opening a 180 (1 sec delay) , a 140 (2 sec delay) with twists and a 120 (2+ sec delay) with twists. I have never been close enough to the wires to warrent a "oh $hit" response. I generally take 2 seconds on most of the jumps I do from here & I always have time to turn it around 180 and land back facing the wind. I always use a 42" AV PC (except on the few go n throws I have done here).

If you jump in the right conditions then the issue of wires and object strike should be minimised. I know someone will probably post a horror story or two about hitting wires or hitting A's but I beleive that guyed A's can be jumped without too much of a problem in the correct conditions. You have a wide range to play with and with a good push off and solid delay you can increase the distance from object and wires.

The other issue to consider would be what dishes and non-directionals it has plastered all over it - as the transmissions and emissions are another kettle of fish.

I dont know really - maybe because I am used to jumping guyed A's I dont appreciate how other people who arent so familar with them feel.

Anyhow - just my 3 sets of tri-wires worth............

Michael

[bryguy1224]

I pretty new to the sport. Only have done some spans. The guy wires make me a little nervous I guess because its 300 and not 600. I'm afraid of not having the seperation from the wires that I would get form a larger tower. But the landing area is so great. Its jumpable from all sides and landable in any direction. If I jumped I planned on a crosswind landing due to the fact I might not get around the guy wires. I figure with a go and through I'll open up in between the first two sets of wires anyway. Thanks for all your help. BLinc is great and I hope it stays around for quite some time.

Bryan

"Not paying, and still gettin it"

[crwper]

As another poster mentioned, the right conditions can really help on a jump like this. Provided the winds are blowing up a wire (i.e. splitting the section you will be jumping in), they will help you out in the event of a 180, and will also help you fly away from the antenna (and into an area where the wires are further apart) after you're open.

On a jump like this you don't want the winds to be too high, because you will be opening with a tailwind on a short delay, but winds as high as 15 mph or so should be acceptable, depending on your landing area and comfort level. Bear in mind also that winds on the ground often won't be as high as winds at opening, which can be nice for landing.

Have fun!

Michael

[CrazyThomas]

Guy wires on any tower become invisible at night. If you feel you have the canopy flight skills/BASE experience to know how to deal with off heading openings, and steering in the correct direction (NOT just away from the tower), then it should be OK. Experience will factor into this, as will.....experience I guess. As in, how many BASE jumps, and how many BASE jumps from antennas?
This is not an uncommon height (in my mis-conceived notions) of a tower to jump from with guy wires. They ARE a serious issue, and should be treated accordingly. That said, it has been done, and can be done with success and good results.
However, on the other hand, flying a canopy into guy wires can have some interesting results, from a shocking wake up call, to a hang up on the wires resulting in rescue. In the case of rescue from the guy wires, either have some climbing proficient people with you for ground crew with lots of ropes and knowledge, or a big wad of cash to pay fines and bills.

Basically, 300 foot guy wired towers....has been done, is being done, and will be done. However, not everyone plays ball in the same ball park (and not everyone does double gainers from sub 200ft).
It is mostly a matter of comfort and desire. If there is a different object 30-60 minutes away that makes you feel better, keep jumping it. If you just want some variety or convenience, assess the situation (which you are doing), and make a decision.

Personally, I am more comfortable slider up off BIG towers, but I have heard that sliders make some people uncomfortable. I have also heard that some people are WAY TOO LAZY to climb to slider up height (no personal attack there :-) :-) ).

And wind does play a factor, as someone else pointed out already. Some wind can be helpful in the event of a 180, to blow you away from the tower. 300 feet it might not be an issue, but I have heard rumors that tailwinds tend to increase inflation time. This plays a bigger factor in sub-200ft stuff, but then again, this is just what I have heard.

hope this helps the discussion continue.



Thomas

[bryguy1224]

I am very, very new to antennas, just jumped off my first one about an hour ago. Not the one with Guy wires, another on I found close by thanks to berkana.com.I learned quite a few things. Just because its 280 doesn't mean you can get to 280. I ladder is great until your rig starts grazing the structure behind you as it narrows and you have to weasle to the outside and try to climb as you foot shakes uncontrolibley since I was scared out of my mind. Wind 30 degrees off exit point plays huge in heading performance.(30 degree offheading right with the wind.)The nice steel poles sticking out the side will snag your pilot chute if I decided to tie off. So I freefell it. That was sweet.To jump the 300 guy wire it would have to be absolutly perfect winds. Plus or minus 5 degrees in my mind. Thats just my opinion that I have gathered in my ONE "A" jump. Thanks for the advice.

Bryan

"Not paying and still gettin it"