Quantifiable Skill Subsets

[Dwain]

On request I am trying to create a list of all the skill subsets in BASE that could be judged in a competition format.

These are the areas I can currently think of:

1. Freefall Control
.....1.1. Camera
.....1.2. Relative Work (e.g. formation BASE, freeflying)
.....1.3. Aerials (See: www.basejump.org/discuss Articles->Technical Articles->Aerials in BASE->Competition for more details)
..........1.3.1 Body Ascetics
..........1.3.2 Rotations in all 3 dimensions
..........1.3.3 Control of a foreign object (e.g. skysurf board, wingsuit)

2. Horizontal Displacement
.....2.1. Launch
.....2.2. Air Displacement
..........2.2.1. Unaided (standard tracking)
..........2.2.2. Aided
...............2.2.2.1 Wingsuits
...............2.2.2.2 Tracking pants etc

3. Nominated Delay Accuracy / Nominated Opening Height Accuracy

4. Deployment
.....4.1. Heading
.....4.2. Corrective action and speed in dealing with malfunctions or off-headings

5. Landing
.....5.1. Accuracy
.....5.1. Standup (i.e. land softly - not pound in)

Anything I am missing?

Other skill sets such as site and conditions evaluation and ability to avoid getting busted are somewhat difficult to quantify.

[imported_Tom Aiello]

>..........1.3.1 Body Ascetics

Um, what is "Body Ascetics"?

It sounds like a criterion for judging monks--maybe how well you starve yourself?

--Tom Aiello
tbaiello@ucdavis.edu

[obi]

Yep, that's a nice picture! Already saw it on video. Guess they trained for the next competition on 'deploying with minimal horizontal distance'. Did they nominate the 1.5 inches before?

[guest]

Dweasel boy, what's horrifically laughable about punks like you and Johnny Weasel is how cool you think it is to put the legal future of our sport and the reputation and physical/financial assets of a billion-dollar corporation at risk... a corporation that has stuck its neck out to let us all play.

What astonishes me is the magnitude of:

a) your selfishness in doing this dumb-asss hotdog stuff with near-death experiences galore;then

b) BRAGGING about it in a public and international forum; and, in so doing,

c) confirming how recklessly out of control you were and how your "skill set" counted far less than dumb-asss luck when it came to surviving.

In so doing, you hold up Telekom Malaysia as buffoons and dupes for allowing such self-described reckless punks to play so irresponsibly on their building.

You want to know what you "left out" of your quantifiable skill subsets? How about basic maturity, respect and appreciation for the hospitality and privileges extended in good faith to you because Telekom Malaysia took you at your word that you're a serious-minded professionals?

You want to do stupid, punk-asss black death stuff like that, fine. Just do it someplace where your self-induced demise won't impose so much on the good will of the precious few corporations that are gracious enough to let us jump from their buildings.

As Marta said about the Vertigo Moab boogie, boogies are like doing demos, and when you do demos you don't push it because YOU ARE ON PUBLIC DISPLAY.

And here you not only pushed it to ridiculously risky lengths -- remember, it's Telekom Malaysia's asss you're putting on the line every time you pull stupid shitt like this -- but now you're beating your little punk chests about it to the world.

Worldwide, our sport is on the verge of "venue breakthrough" in many places. It is incredibly important that the alleged "leaders" of this activity act like leaders instead of little boys pulling stupid pranks when the adults aren't looking.

Robin Heid
BASE 44

[d-dog]

The sad thing here, Robin, is that the person you are villifying today (tomorrow, it'll likely be someone else) has more than ten TIMES as many BASE jumps under his belt as you do - with no serious injuries in his entire goddamned career. This is one of the most experienced - and most technically intelligent - jumpers in the entire world. These are cold, hard, objective facts. Not facts shared with many people because Dwain ain't a braggart (he's a girlie-haired goof, sure, but not a braggart).

Fact is, DW has opened more new sites alone than you have jumped in your entire, storied career. Exactly what makes you qualified to question his safety and professionalism? Near as I can tell, Dwain (and others at that experience and skill level) are safer jumping with a blindfold and their arms tied behind their back than mere mortals like you and I are with full capacities. They can do "dumb stunts" in relative safety, in the same way that, say, I can jump an underhung cliff with a snowy exit point in a moderate crosswind at night in safety relative to some bozo off the street. That's because I have the skill and experience to do so, gained through hard work and study - and physical fitness, reaction time, and good body awareness and proprioception management. Someone as out-of-date in their jumping as you would be a disaster waiting to happen in this scenario. Safety is relative to skill, and there's nobody in the world with more skill in BASE today than JW or DW or the other guys (and gals) at the very top of our sport's experience curve.

Did you have your sense of humor surgically removed? The fact that jumpers like Dwain can laugh at themselves while still showing - unquestionablity- their mastery of the sport by their sheer ability to make hundreds of hundreds of jumps with NO INJURIES WHATSOEVER is what sets these folks as the natural leaders of worldwide BASE. They don't have to appoint themselves to these positions, or argue for them, or winge in public, or skew self-authored articles to favor themselves. They don't have to chase TeeVee cameras around, or beg publicity, or write monthly columns. They are leaders because of what they DO. . . and who they ARE.

Do you still BASE jump at all? You know, the safest BASE jumps are the ones you don't do. This isn't goddamned basketweaving. I just think you'd be so much more at home in a TeeVee friendly sport like, say, figure skating than in BASE. This sport doesn't map well to the psychological profile you demonstrate every time you post here, in public.

Robin, you're never going to get rich being a self-style BASE spokesmodel. You aren't going to get the respect of the global BASE community - those few international jumpers that know who you are know you only as a whining, washed-up, bitter has-been/wishes-he-was. The sport moved past your "don't push the envelope, let's rest on our laurels and slap ourselves on the back until he11 freezes over" attitude. Every day, around the world, there are more jumps made in a single day by the global BASE community than in entire years' jumps during the 80s and early 90s. It ain't 1986, and you cannot rewind the clock to make it so no matter how hard you cry and how many temper tantrums you throw.

The biggest liability our sport has right now, Robin, is your tendency to rant publicly against ANYONE who threatens to upstage your own overfilled ego. You'll gladly cut anyone's legs off to lower them down to your level, all the while claiming it is "in the best interest of BASE."

I am an active jumper. I am a relatively new jumper. I am also deeply interested in the future of our sport, as you well know from our own volumiuous exchanges of personal email. Let me give you my strongest, most heartfelt advice:

GET OFF YOUR GODDAMNED HIGH HORSE. ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE PRIMARILY AN HISTORICAL RELIC IN BASE, AND HAVE NO IDEA WHERE BASE STANDS TODAY AROUND THE GLOBE BECAUSE. . . YOU DO NOT JUMP ANY MORE AND YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE CURRENT GENERATION THAT IS THE HEART AND SOUL OF BASE TODAY.

Thus, STOP HARASSING THE LEADERS OF OUR SPORT IN PUBLIC. YOU ARE NOT - NOT - NOT - A LEADER OF OUR SPORT, AND NEVER WILL BE.

You know where my heart is, and you know I speak from a genuine concern for the future of BASE. If you ever want to add any value to the sport's progression, the only path is to stop with these infantile, regressive, self-important, bitter diatribes. They make all BASE jumpers look like idiots in guilt by association, and they serve to alienate any people left out there who might still be willing to listen to your other, more reasonable opinions.

This is just so patently obvious to everyone out there. . . save you. Are your goggles so effective in blocking out all peripheral vision that you are unable to see this?

Let me close by pointing out several salient facts. You publicly and vociferously predicted, promised, all but guaranteed massive carnage at KL last fall. IT DID NOT HAPPEN. You were WRONG. 100%. Completely. Totally. Unquestionably. Wrong. You don't know what you are talking about - your predictions are proven wrong in the most spectacularly, public ways. Had a jumper gone in at KL, you'd have screamed with glee and blamed everyone who didn't appoint you King of BASE. Well, turnabout is fair play. Since you were so spectacularly incorrect in your predictions, I think it is completely appropriate to close the file on your contributions to BASE event organization.

Your single biggest, most important, most serious prediction ever about an event was completely, dead wrong. You bet your credibility on that prediction, and lost. You have no chips left with which to bet. Please clear the table and let other, more skilled players step up to the plate. You are flat broke.

Furious,

D-d0g
Douglas B. Spink
doug@wrinko.com
800.909.3972

[feral]

I love a bit of rOBIN bashing.



D-DOG your so right .

rOBIN is a wnak#r and he knows it .

The sad thing is he writes about the sport in Skydiving Magazine so, and Many people belive his sh!t........

One thing that makes me laugh so hard is the way that rOBIN stated that the way DW and others were running things At petrons were bad and that low time jumpers were going to attened and this would harm the sport.rOBIN wanted to have jumpers from countrys all over the world coming to his event and some of those jumpers would be the most expernced in there land but low experence level on the world secene but to rOBIN this was ok..........Wank#r



And he prided himself so much on having the best jumpers at his event this should make you piss yourself he meet a female base jumper in perris that i know pretty well and wanted her on the load petrons because she was a chick and not because she was up to the task she told me latter that everything i think about the 4 fingered inbreed were spot on. And when he found out that she was a Aussie jumper he asked her does she know this Aussie jumper feral that was pissing him off on the board she let him go on and on and on and on then told him she knew me very well and then he said ohh i would probly get on well with him and he would like me .Well she should have told you then and there that i think you are a co(khead and check the perris daliy ebichury colmum everyday in hope ..............

P.S i canot spell for sh!t to much smack!!!!!!!!!!!!1



\And 587 dont put down school kids by putting them in with rOBIN



bsBD feral
The presedent of the WAHRC(we all hate rOBIN club)
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[guest]

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[seven]

AAAAWWWLLLRIGHT!!!
he he he...
i went away lived some life, saw some of the world and did some cool jumps and came back to the base bored and found it interesting again!!!
needed a good bellylaugh!
niiiice!!
keep up the bitching and robin bashing girls!!!
peace love and mungbeans...7....xxxxxxx

[guest]

Mr. Spink,

First let me congratulate you on your BASE number. Despite my historical relic status, I still remember how good it felt to get that number back in 1983.

Now to bidness. As usual, you're articulate and bring up good points, but you're a first class sophist and demolisher of straw men on this one.

I disagree with nothing you said about Dweasel's TECHNICAL skills, or the comparison of his technical BASE experience to mine. He is, in fact (as are Slim and Weasel and the other fellow), TECHNICALLY very accomplished and I did not in any way, shape or form suggest they weren't, despite how long you went on and on and on... and on about it.

What I did say was to look at Dweasel's OWN WORDS about how totally out of control they were on that jump and that the ONLY reason they all lived without injury was due not to their prodigious skill sets to pure, unadulterated dumb-asss LUCK.

That kind of reckless, immature conduct is NOT how you repay the graciousness and magnanimity of a major corporation -- and it is not befitting of a leader.

Nothing you said in your eloquently off-target diatribe changes that fact, and I find it amusing that's you'd castigate ME for calling him publicly on the carpet when HE was the one publicly strutting his stuff about what an immature, reckless and utterly ungrateful punk he was to the people at KL Tower.

As for Petronas proclamations, your ignorance is showing.

Petronas almost shut it down the very first day because it was such a clusterfuck.

The "organizers" were forced by Petronas to scratch both the wingsuit event AND the aerials event because they weren't smart enough to get the gondola opened to jumping, and the people they gathered at the last minute were NOT up to the standards I'd hoped to establish.

Moreover, the detailed warnings made to Petronas (not only by me but by several other BASE jumpers considerably more experienced and mature than Dweasel and Weasel (unnamed to this day because they don't want to put up with the kind of charming comments directed at me by the clueless and the punk) ) EDUCATED the corporation about what was going on and in so doing, allowed Petronas to hold the children's feet to the fire and helped ensure that the event would not become a bloodier, more incompetent debacle than it was (did you see the German TV show with all the yo-yos crashing into speaker stands and doing other stupid stuff... GREAT PR for the sport and for Petronas).

So Mr. Spink, before YOU spout off again about something you know about only peripherally and in the third or fourth hand, you might want to check with me for the facts.

And you might want to read this Board a little more often. I have said in this space that I never aspired to be a BASE event organizer, that an opportunity fell into my lap and I contacted most of the very "leaders" you listed, almost all of whom proved to be leaders in technical terms only and in no other way (as demonstrated so well by Dweasel's attitude in this thread).

This was unfortunate in the extreme, and in ways I won't even detail in this space because the "corporate comprehension level" here is non-existent (once again as so eloquently exemplified by Dweasel's boasting and your nattering).

As for another comment on this Board that I originally invited a number of people to participate who may or may not have been sufficiently skilled to handle jumps from Petronas, let me say this:

1) Those invitations were simply the FIRST PHASE of the selection process.

2) Once the project went forward, there was to be a SECOND and THIRD phase: The second being a verification of technical experience through referrals and so forth, backed up by a Perrine Bridge "tryout" under Mark Hewitt's supervision; the third being a pledge in writing to observe a "corporate guest rules of conduct" so people behaved themselves.

3) As for the invitations to women jumpers who were not necessarily as experienced as their male counterparts, those women -- particularly including the pink one with the funny hair -- would have been subject to the same technical requirements as the men, and were so told when the invitation was made. In fact, in the case of the pink one, she was specifically told to get in touch after she got back from Norway and see how her skillset had developed because at the time of the "provisional invitation" she was not qualified according to my standards. As I have also stated on this Board, given that the first year was an invitational rather than a true championships conducted with national champions chosen in national competition, getting as many girls as possible into the mix had significant PR ramifications. EXAMPLE: That was why Dweasel's Girlfriend was named U.S Team Leader. Not counting her poor choice in men, she is intelligent, well-spoken and mature (as well as being a competent jumper). Johnny Weasel was horrified about this and threw a huge temper tantrum because HE wasn't the team leader, thereby once again confirming the utter lack of understanding on his part and the rest of the children-in-charge about how these things play out on the media stage.

4) One of the PRINCIPAL reasons I told Dann Lee we couldn't do a legitimate or safe world-level competition in the time frame available was that, in addition to no sponsors and NO GONDOLA -- meaning 880 instead of 1150 feet and much less clearance from the building -- there would not be enough time to properly filter the jumpers who had been invited.

This, by the way, was PROVEN, not disproven by subsequent events. One of those "invited" by Dweasel and Weasel (who then quit organizing so they could win their own meet, forcing one of the more responsible competitors to withdraw so there would be someone to run the landing area) did not have even ONE base jump, and several of the others had less than ten.

Moreover, the guy who left blood on the building (which I PREDICTED and which did happen -- he left a LOT of blood on the roof and 10,000 office workers got to watch a bevy of Muslim ladies swab it off the mall roof with mops -- most likely would not have hit anything had the gondola been available, which it wasn't because, again, there wasn't time to PROPERLY stage and administer the event... or to properly screen the selected jumpers.

You are a very intelligent and educated man, Mr. Spink, but I would hope that in the future you look beyond jump numbers and technical skill and focus on the larger and more important issues involved when making jumps with the blessing of major corporations. By his own admission, Dweasel & Co. could have been dead or smashed up just as easily as they did land safely and without injury.

And again, that was my principal point: We can't pass ourselves off as professionals and then act like punks.

Robin Heid
BASE 44

[d-dog]

And who "went on and on?" Your word count was larger than mine - you win!

1. Being declared retroactively a Sophist is a bit of an honor, actually. I assume you are using the term in its colloquial context, and not in a literal sense. In actuality, Sophism is pretty much entirely congruent with modern knowledge of cultural systems, mathematical relativity, and epistimological reality. In fact, I'd argue that the whole field of incompleteness study opened by Godel owes tremendous intellectual debt to the original, pre-Socratic tenets of Sophism. Socrates (and his butt boy Plato) was a damned good writer, but not always so spot-on in his science. And he was a hypocrite, of course, even with the whole hemlock-drinking thing. But I digress. . .

2. I again ask: was your sense of humor surgically removed? DW poking fun at himself doesn't make DW irresponsible. It makes him FUNNY. As in, "ha ha ha" with attendant holding of one's belly. We call it "humor" in our land. You take it literally, at face value because that is what you want to believe. You mis-read the text and thus, once again, lay bare your deeply-rooted biases and need to find villans in order to prop up your own status. Self-deprecation is generally a sign of someone comfortable with their own actions and standing in society. Those who cannot understand it, generally, are insecure and unable to appreciate a more sophisticated (see that the root of "sophisticated" is in fact "Sophist," right?) forms of humor and self-commentary.

3. Petronas went off with hardly a hitch, and all of your circular, self-referencing, tangential data spray doesn't change that fact. The jumper who was injured early in the event was an experienced Dutch jumper who had a bad off-heading and didn't quite react in time. That was the WORST injury - despite your predictions of unadalterated carnage. You were wrong. The gondola has nothing to do with it - you were wrong. The event went off spectacularly well. You said it would not - could not. You were wrong. Admit it.

I'm just not even sure what point you are trying to argue here, Robin, save simply attempting to villify your latest public enemy of BASE. When one is holding a hammer, all the world is a nail. Your hammer is your incredible emnity towards any jumper more respected, knowledgeable, skilled, and/or appreciated than yourself.

Put the hammer down.

D-d0g
ddog@wrinko.com
www.wrinko.com

[guest]

You're such a dweeb, Dweasel boy.

1. You didn't have the top 50 BASE jumpers in the world. Tell Petronas that if you want, but it ain't true. The fact that everybody lived was a testament to my good judgment in choosing Mark Hewitt to make sure everybody lived.

In fact, I chose ALL of you so-called organizers, and rather than sticking by me as you promised and pledged, and working together as a team, you cut side-deals while pretending to still be on my team.

2. When this somebody broke his leg, the event was almost shut down because it exemplified the poor organization and management. Telling me to harden up simply reflects your lack of understanding of the corporate issues involved.

3. The wingsuit competition was batted around and discussed by a number of people, including YOU, and Weasel spent a bunch of time in August in Norway practicing for it. You flat out LIE when you suggest that I was the only one who wanted it because you know better... just as you know that the MOMENT you brought up your concerns about it (after initially supporting the idea), I relayed those concerns to others in my advisory council and everyone but Weasel agreed that dropping the wingsuit event for 2001 was a good idea -- everyone, that is, except Dann Lee, who persisted in announcing it and planning for it until those senior jumpers who educated Petronas about it finally won through. Look through your own emails and those of others. Your seamy revisionism to the contrary, it was ME who cancelled it, after input from people more technically knowledgeable than me.

4. Your own words reflect the half-asssed nature of your event: "negotiated" four extensions... "perhaps" you'll get more next time. Great way to plan a competition. You did, in fact, make up the rules on-site as you went along. Some competition. Moreover, you KNEW the gondolas could not be used and you were going to do your aerials anyway so you and Weasel could show everybody what studs you were and win your own meet.

5. Past history wasn't what I was talking about... it's your punk attitude when operating in the corporate environment.

"Petronas management (was) delighted" simply because they escaped without you and your fellow punks making a huge mess of things... and please explain to me just how you are so certain that "if the event wouldn't have occurred in 2001 it would have shut the doors to Petronas forever." I know you say this to justify your betrayal of me and your acceptance of lowered standards just so you could be a hero, but that doesn't make it true.

And you are certainly not sorry I didn't get paid. For one thing, you were personally instrumental in seeing that I didn't get paid because you were cutting side deals with Dann Lee while pretending to continue as one of my technical addvisers and confidantes as I negotiated with Dann. (Though you are right about one thing: My people skills did have a lot to do with it; I trusted your Girlfriend's recommendation that your honesty, ethicality, and mature equaled your technical skill, and took you at your word that you were on the team and not just looking out for yourself and scamming me behind my back).

And if you are so sorry I didn't get paid, then how come you didn't forward all the booty YOU made from this event on to me as a gesture of your appreciation for the two years of work I put into that project? And of your regret that I didn't get paid?

Finally, your assertion of my "lack of technical knowledge about BASE jumping" is truly laughable because if it was true, it would simply mean YOU and the Weasel and the Butch Goddass were the ones truly lacking in technical knowledge because, as I pointed out to Mr. Spink, when the opportunity came to me, I immediately sought out the technical leaders in the sport to create a solid technical foundation for the planned event.

So I say again, you short-sighted, ungrateful Dweasel boy, don't pass yourself off as professional if you're going to act like a garden variety punk.

Robin Heid
BASE 44

[guest]

Doug, Doug, Doug..

Sophism defined is "a clever and plausible but fallacious agument or form of reasoning that is apparently correct in form but in fact invalid."

That's all I meant, what with your endless comparisons Dweasel's experience compared to mine and just one question on that for you: How do you weight "time in grade" compared to numbers of jumps made repeatedly from a small number of objects?

But I digress. The point of my thread was to point out, as I have for some time, that the immaturity and recklessness exhiited by so many of the technical leaders in this sport is going to ruin opportunities for us if we don't cut it out.

Yosemite fell apart in large part because the so-called "leaders" of parachuting acted with precisely the same kind of abject immaturity and irresponsibility and disrespect as that exhibited by Dweasel boy in this thread. It was IN FACT a major shock to NPS managers to find the "leaders" of the sport being loud, drunken, disrespectful louts, which led them to wonder: "What kind of sport is this when the alleged leaders are such total jerks and asssholes?"

Dweasel's behavior is simply a reprise of this error, for which all of us are paying not only in the US (23 years later) but in Oz and Canada, where those respective national park services have followed the U.S. lead.





So far, neither he nor you has gotten off your sophist horse about who's the best BASE jumper and addressed the foundation issue here. You dismiss his conduct as somehow "humor-related," but the facts and the photographs belie that characterization. It was IN FACT, not sophist presentation, an irresponsible and reckless thing to do to Telekom Malaysia. Of ALL people, these so-called "leaders" should be even more conservative and cautious and responsible than anyone else on the load.

So far, though, you still wallow in sophist natterings while Dweasel boy yawns at it all because he's just so ineffably coooool, doncha know.

Moreover, all of Dweasel's technical experience didn't get Petronas open to jumpers; My overall knowledge and experience and communications ability did.

And while Petronas didn't turn into the carnage-fest it could have, it was still a clusterfuck that achieved far, far less than it could have had it been done right.

And of course you're "not even sure what point (I'm)trying to argue here," because your stuck in an endless loop of "he-has-more-BASE-jumps-than-you."

That's not the point at all, Mr. Spink, and neither is you similarly silly assertion that I have "incredible emnity towards any jumper more respected, knowledgeable, skilled, and/or appreciated than yourself."

My enmity is reserved only for those very few jumpers who pledged their word to be on the team I assembled, then scammed behind my back for their own selfish reasons and in so doing made a mess of a project I'd planned and nurtured and spent thousands of dollars and hours to make happen.


You live in a little world right now, Mr. Spink, because Dweasel and his pals are your primary jump buddies. There are a LOT of extremely respected, knowledgeable, skilled and appreciated jumpers out there, including myself (though you'd never know it by all my fans on this Board). With them I have no quarrel and certainly no enmity. I cheer on their accomplishments and appreciate them and write about a lot of them for SKYDIVING.

So why don't you cut the sophist crapola about jump experience and speculating on my motivations and address the ISSUE here: Professional, RESPONSIBLE conduct by so-called leaders when operating in a corporate environment.


Love,

Robin Heid
BASE 44

[guest]

Perhaps you have a suggestion as to how one might quantify "basic maturity, respect and appreciation for the hospitality and privileges"? You offer them up, but it's not at all clear to me that they fit the label "quantifiable skill subsets".

But sometimes I miss things like that...

[guest]

Good question, Jason.

Basic maturity, respect and appreciation can be quantified in four words:

Good manners, good business.

1. It is not good manners or good business to put the reputation and assets of your host at risk levels they didn't bargain for.

2. It is not good manners or good business to put your host at risk this way and then brag about it publicly and post the pictures.

3. It is not good manners or good business if you damager your host's reputation or assets because you damage or kill yourself because your ego wrote a check your asss can't cash.

Thus do they absolutely fit the label "quantifiable skill subsets," because if your hosts don't like you or trust you, they're not going to ask you back.

And it applies even more intensely to leaders.

Leaders are not just the organizers but the people who set the example for others. The four people in question here are all technical leaders in the sport, but look at the example they set for the people who look up to them:

It's cool to make black death out of control jumps that put your host's reputation and assets at risk.

It isn't cool.

Robin Heid
BASE 44

[Nik]

"You live in a little world right now, Mr. Spink, because Dweasel and his pals are your primary jump buddies."

Robin...getting a little close with the barbs...

I would like to officially go on record by stating I have no friends,(dead ones don't count), I don't play well with others and only "pal" around with drag queens.

Cheers

Nik DRAG QUEEN BASE #1